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    My partner will grow everything out, full pits, full bush and I’m like “Yes! so sexy!” Then she’ll decide to shave everything and I’m like “awwww yeah!”. Then back to the bush and I’m again stoked. She’s beautiful and sexy no matter what.

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    I’m not saying I don’t like Bush but it’s a little silly to call me ungrateful after the whole Iraq and Afghanistan debacle.

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        I’m not sure that I have, actually — blanket generalizations are inherently deceitful.

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          I’m not sure that I have, actually — blanket generalizations are inherently deceitful.

          None of the definitions I can find for blanket generalizations require deceit.

          It’s simply a fallacy defined by inductive conclusions.

          You unintentionally and in good faith made a paradox under the misunderstanding that deceit was required.

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            You don’t need to intend to be deceitful to be deceitful, just like you don’t need to intend to kill someone to kill them.

            The world is not sweeping absolutes. Painting it as such always obscures some truth, this post is no different.

            Edit: I’m just wrong here, I was misusing deceitful.

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              think anyone that makes blanket generalizations

              That’s a sweeping absolute, but this conversation is obviously going nowhere, have a good one friend.

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                Edit: that wasn’t fair of me. Let me rethink this response.

                Edit2: I recognize the paradox here, I think I was using deceit incorrectly. I accept your responses, thanks for being cordial.

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              It’s a good thing the person in the video specified she’s taking about men who have the audacity to judge women’s bodies and body hair publicly then.

              Since she’s talking about a specific subset of men, it’s not a blanket generalization.

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                Yeah that context is important, the title is enough to make me write the whole thing off.

                I understand why clickbait strategies are common, I am just not the common denominator that they’re aimed at. Am I judging a book by its cover? Yes… but I’d also judge ‘Notes on How to Skin a Baby’ by its cover so… idk.

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                  Comparing men that don’t like women’s natural bodies to murdering and skinning a baby sure is a choice you made.

                  It’s ok if your kneejerk reaction was to be defensive. It’s also ok to re-examine the post and realize that just because you are a man doesn’t mean they’re talking about you.

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      Nah man. If you hate how it comes naturally, then you don’t actually like it.

      But I’m a middle aged woman, so I think the ‘male gaze’ and its judgemental subjugation can fuck all the way off.

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        I don’t care what you think your qualifications are. These three things are true: I love my girlfriend, I am sexually attracted to my girlfriend, I hate pubes. Whatever you think is irrelevant.

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            When did I say that?

            I hate pubes because I don’t like hair near my mouth in general. I don’t ask my girlfriend to shave, she does it because she sees my own reaction when a beard hair gets in my mouth.

            Like I said, blanket generalizations are inherently deceitful.

            Edit: I used deceitful incorrectly. There is no intent to deceive. It may be deceitful, it may be unintentionally misleading. There is nuance here.

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              If a beard hair getting in your mouth isn’t a strong enough reason for you to shave your beard, then it’s not a deal breaker/ you don’t hate it.

              I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt that your feelings between your own hairs and hers are similar.

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                Hold on, what?

                If a beard hair getting in your mouth isn’t a strong enough reason for you to shave your beard, then it’s not a deal breaker/ you don’t hate it.

                This is a ridiculous statement. Disliking an aspect of something and putting up with it for other reasons is such a natural thing it makes me wonder if you’ve ever styled yourself in any other capacity than troglodyte.

                For example my girlfriend likes my beard. So I keep it. Because she likes it. You see how that works, cave person?

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                Imagine thinking this is a gotcha.

                ‘Hehe, this guy admitted he was wrong about something - fucking owned.’

                You’re a child, go sit in the corner.

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    I don’t hate Bush at all. She’s original, and some of her tunes are catchy, I just think that she’s taken having a unique vocal style a bit over the line of being silly.

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    Could we stop trying to resuscitate that man’s image? He was a war criminal just like every other president before and after.

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      Part the lips delicately with your index and ring finger, while your middle finger is inside. If you have two fingers inside (middle and ring), use your pinky instead. Your chin should be resting on your palm

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    Well they are both war criminals who should be tried as traitors, and the whitewashing of their legacies is deeply shameful to say the least.

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    People should just find people they’re sexually compatible with. No one owes you anything, and you don’t owe anyone anything. Just do whatever you want with consenting adults. I don’t understand why this concept is so fucking hard? You don’t like bush, cool, don’t sleep with someone who has one. You like to have a bush? Cool, don’t sleep with someone who doesn’t like it. Simple as that people. No one decides what they like and what they don’t. You can’t force someone to like your body, so why even bother? There’s plenty people out there who likes you the way you are.

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      You don’t like bush, cool, don’t sleep with someone who has one.

      Should this conversation happen prior to the encounter, then?

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      This is the real answer. I mean some compromise is normal and healthy in a relationship, but for the most part everyone just do what you are comfortable with and find people who are good with that

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        Yep and if people at large could stop commenting on women’s body hair publicly, then everyone could be even more focused on finding people they are compatible with <3

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      This is the answer in a pragmatic sense, in our day to day. It works, it’s fine. The thing is our tastes are not 100% natural and spontaneous, they can be influenced by context, and that context can be problematic. So the extra step these discussions are asking us to do is beyond the pragmatic or useful day to day advice you gave. It is questioning why we have those tastes. “Why don’t I like natural cis women?”, “Why am I not attracted to black people?”, “Why do I refuse to date trans guys?”. Etcetera. If we find it is not because of prejudices, societal expectations, 'must be’s from unequal societies, or anything like that, then it’s an unfortunate coincidence but we can move on. But if we find something like that (those things I listed), it is not necessarily permanent, I think most of the times it can be worked on, changed, and these discussions are also an invitation to do so.

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      This is about people who go out of their way to comment on typically women’s bodies or go out of their way to leave hate comments to women online for having body hair.

      This is in the intro of the video.

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        I’m mostly refering to some of the comments in this thread. A lot seem to take it very personal that some people might not be into the same thing they are.

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      There’s plenty people out there who likes you the way you are.

      Hahaha, good one 😂

      … now I’m sad 😔

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      Umm, I do, in fact, decide what I like or don’t like. That’s true for everybody. But I don’t decide what you like, and vice versa. So the issue is still that you can’t decide for other people what they’re into.

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        How does that work? Especially given the context. As I’ve understood attraction and what one likes about the other person aren’t really changeable? I’m genuinely curious how can that be changed or decided?

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            And still, hows that supposed to change what one likes?
            Of course i can consciously decide to override likes and preferences, but that still doesn’t change those. It will still be conscious decision every time.

            And giving the current context of sex. As I’ve understood, we aren’t supposed to force that? Like we don’t go up to someone who’s gay and say why don’t you decide to like women, of course some do, but we’re not supposed because those likes aren’t supposed to be changeable.

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      Here’s my approach to this, as a dude:

      I mean, really I don’t have a broad preference for or against bush at all…

      … but, if you want me to smooch things down there, please tidy up a bit.

      I just don’t like having a mouth full of hair.

      Don’t worry, I will tidy up too, for the reverse scenario, if partner also dislikes mouthful of hair, and! … this also applies to my facial hair… I’m not that attached to it, and it will grow back, if you want to smooch my face but don’t like the beard/stache.

      Maybe I am lucky in that I at least I think I look decent both with or without a beard/stache.

      This is to me completely fair and reciprocal, and … really is not that conplicated.

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    I’m a woman who is basically fine with bush but if it’s totally untamed just logistically I am going to have to pause from my eating you and/or swallowing you down a lot to pick hairs out of my mouth. But if you’re fine with that and I’m into you then I’m more than fine with that too.

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    I mean, according to a research paper published by Brandeis University and its sources, the whole “women need to be shaved” thing was started by Gillette to sell razors, correlates with perceiving women as younger and a tendency to fetishise youth.

    Considering the evolutionary roots, men should feel attracted to female body hair, as it is a secondary sexual characteristic, such as breast size and waist to hip ratio, and hence a sign of sexual maturity and ability to procreate. […]

    Biologically, sexually mature females have body hair, but society has made femininity more connected to youth and pre-pubescence than to a woman’s ability to reproduce.

    So if you like them unshaved, that’s natural (but no longer normal). If you like them shaved, that’s normal (but not natural).

    And if you don’t like them at all, you’re lucky to sidestep that question.

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      It’s so weird when you see that specific subset of men (and to be fair, some women too) whining about how ‘body hair is unnatural for women’.

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        Right? It grows if you don’t do anything about it. That’s basically the definition of natural.

        If they don’t find it attractive, they could just say so. It’s a subjective taste. Stand by it.