“Facts that happen to be true” what kind of orwellian speak is this?
Welcome to the future, it’s post-truth here.
Wait. So china pointed out why data centers are bad and were right about it and people agreed?
That’s a really weird ass “covert campaign”.
Everything they told us about capitalism… turned out to be true.
“facts that happen to be true” aka facts
Another beacon of truth from the company of Sam Altman, known for his honesty and forthrightness
misinformation campaignAka “News”
Yeah this is why everyone hates sam altman and not because he’s just going around saying that AI companies are worth more than the entirety of planet earth combined.
“These dirty commies! Making everyone woke with their factually correct propaganda! They just want lil ol me to not have my american dream!”
I don’t think China cares about US that much ngl.
Honestly I wouldn’t doubt that they do, supposedly leaders both ours and theirs see us as being in a sort of cold war space race style AI race, and I guess that effectively means we are.
But I for one didn’t need their campaign to hate what I can see for myself is an issue, murderbots, surveillance, and dumbing down people further have always been things that I think are “bad.”
Yet you can’t see for yourself that this article is in propaganda in itself and blindly believe OpenAI’s claims there is a Chinese campaign.
I mean, in the context of AI development itself, there’s the possible angle that China/Chinese AI companies would do this to attempt to slow down American based AI development in an effort to surpass them, but…yeah seems pretty goofy tbh.
They’re clearly trying to claw at anything to redirect attention from data centers fucking everyone over.
China already won the game. Their models are on par with Americans and much cheaper.
We can’t compete based even just on energy costs.
I use deepseek API and honestly I just don’t care about token costs cuz it’s so cheap.China said they didn’t want those chips the article is talking about used by their companies out of fear of espionage and Huawei made ones 3x faster.
There’s no way the US could catch up with them, they have nothing to fear.
This article is propaganda in itself.Fair enough. I don’t disagree, I was just playing devils advocate. The entire premise is quite ridiculous.
Those evil Chinese propagandists! How dare they… *flips through notes* tell the truth!?
Eh, propaganda isn’t about truth or fiction, it’s about manipulating media to push a narrative.
Yep, like most commenters here have been manipulated by this media and blindly accept the claims of there being a Chinese campaign in the first place.
You should definitely take that scummy US fascist defense contractor’s word for it.Like every CEO and corpo does every single day, they don’t get the benefit of the doubt anymore.
OpenAI has published a report
Into the trash it goes.
Free toilet paper 😃😃
Don’t use that toilet paper, it’s bad for you.
From trash to trash, dust to dust
Garbage in, garbage out
So… So they ran an information campaign?
They educated us for free
Well, someone has to.
Sigh… no, they don’t actually.
Anyone saying anything true about the american tech industry, or about anything at all, could be a secret asset in the employ of the Chinese government. They can’t be trusted.
The only ones running a campaign is a scummy company that is working closely with the U.S. military and Department of Defense of the US regime.
But you can believe them if you want.
Damn the evil CCCCP and their nefarious plot to *checks notes* tell the truth
The best propaganda is always the truth.
Genuinely why I hate anti-america/anti-capitalism propaganda based off lies. You don’t need to lie when just telling the truth is damning. The lies just undermine everything when they’re exposed, makes people question even the facts.
I’ve said this to people so many times, and they get all up in arms making strawman arguments about how I’m supposedly in favor of the thing they’re against.
Like, no, if I thought you were flat out wrong and I had a differing opinion then I would tell you that. If I critique your argument on the grounds that it weakens itself by relying on misinformation, then chances are I probably agree on the bigger picture.
Some people, man…
Don’t feed the trolls… or the psyops either I guess. I don’t care which category of people who abuse logical fallacies are, I just know that some people go out of their way to not fall into those traps and their statements are much more worth my time engaging with.
Don’t feed the trolls
For whatever reason, I have such a hard time following that advice…
You aren’t fighting the trolls - you are struggling against yourself.
Someone who helps bring out the best in you is by definition not a troll, but conversely someone who brings out the worst probably is.
Watch Innuendo Studios The Alt-Right Playbook series. You will be glad that you did. It applies to tankies as well since they use identical argumentation styles. Trolls are not merely the other side, they aren’t even playing at the same game as you, which is why you will be eaten alive unless you understand what’s what. Like you are trying to “convince”, they aren’t. You use facts and references, which you actually bother reading, while they use pithy sayings. Their end goal is for you and everyone you’ve ever met to be killed, as Western culture ends, so that the more “pure” communism can come in - such as obviously exemplified by the likes of Russia, China, and North Korea.
They aren’t trying to “convince” you - they are seeking easy prey, and trying to bully you into shutting up so that they can find others. Seriously, watch that video series if you truly want to understand. It’s long, but very worthwhile.
On one hand yes, on the other I’m sure we’d all have dismissed people talking about a network of pedophilia linking every important statesperson and billionaires, before all the Epstein stuff came out
They were (mostly) attributing it to the wrong people. Also, the biggest accusers were running that network.
Sometimes you just have to have a non exclusive relationship with the truth. /s
So that’s why they call it a POLYgraph
The best propaganda is always the truth.
When they shut down the RT America studio under the foreign agents law and direct TV intervention, they did interviews with the ex-RT dissident-esq reporters who were working there. I don’t remember who, and who was interviewing, so take this with a grain of salt. When they were asked on the lines of how they felt working for Russian propaganda and information campaign. They said along the lines of that of all the networks they had worked on, they were never felt as free as when they worked on RT, and they were quite open that it was all part of bringing up narratives that would disrupt the American mainstream ones and create political disruption and doubt. Their handlers in Moscow knew that the best way to achieve this was just to give them reach and mostly uncensored platform and let them do mostly whatever they want, because they knew that just bringing out the truth was the most damaging thing to American establishment.
they were never felt as free as when they worked on RT
I assume these reporters were not the ones reporting on the state of russia
It was RT USA, I assume that they still never felt that they had a freedom to bite the hand that fed them, but that was not why most of them were there, to focus on dunking on Russia. But not biting the hand that feeds you is the reality for every reporter that isn’t totally independent.
Russia and China have a surprising method of psychological warfare: find the dirt-seekers of the world, and make sure they’re busy enough finding the uncomfortable truths from their ideological opponents, so they don’t bother digging their party’s
John Kiriakou, former CIA officer who blew the whistle on the US’s torture program, had a RT podcast/radio show where he could say anything he liked.
dint TRUMP immediately brought back RT, at least thier propagandist reporters to WH as part of press conference.
RT America doesn’t exist anymore. RT is still alive and well.
Honestly, it’s the last thing anyone would have predicted.
ChatGPT confirms
They’re Chinese Truths, which make them instantly suspect.
Ugh, people with those pesky facts, very inconvenient! /s
“Facts that happened to be true”
Please, shut the fuck up. Fucking shut the fuck up. I am at the end of my wits with this place.
As opposed to, what, facts that aren’t true? Those aren’t facts at all.
“Alternative facts”
As opposed to just calling them facts because they are.
Facts without context are just words.
