If they wanted equal pay, they should get higher paying jobs like doctor or lawyer instead of lower paying jobs like woman doctor or woman lawyer.
I am dying to know what the lead up was to the earlier punchline lmao
Reeeeeeeeally thought you were going to go in a serious direction as I started reading that.
Kinda like when Mallory Archer was talking about how she doesn’t get what her son sees in Lana.
“I mean really, what does he see in a black…ops field agent???”
Really felt like she was going in a whole different direction.
You mean a quadroon ops field agent
i mean, i’m nonbinary. the assaults i’ve had from men are more severe, but they are from far fewer men. the assaults i’ve had from women are far, far less severe, but women in general seem comfortable assaulting people in broad daylight.
I was gonna say that some of this is also probably sentencing bias. Subjectively the correlation seems too strong to not have some truth to it. I also have other data to support male = higher violence risk largely outside of perceptual bias.
As an example from my area of expertise, men complete suicide more often because they typically choose deadlier means (guns especially) vs women are more likely to attempt something like a drug overdose which is more reversible / leaves more opportunity for aborting the attempt. There’s not a lot of room in those stats for perceptual bias, dead is dead and alive is alive. It’s basically a known fact that men are more violent to themselves. I won’t get too much into the stats of violence against others except to say that the statistical predictor tool I’ve used for that in institutional environments didn’t use “male,” it used “male under 30y/o.”
On the other end of perceptual errors almost govern criminal sentencing. Entrusting a group of people to judge an event reduces some but not all of the perceptual bias, but certainly can’t eliminate it. And I do also have my own subjective / experiential perspective that is similar but in some ways inverted to yours (but is also almost certainly occurring in a 100% different environment):
When I first started in my field I was told and found to be true that when you’re breaking up a fight between men all you need to do is break eye contact. You get between them back to back with a coworker and if you can’t block their sightline to each other with your bodies you shove one of them around a corner. And that’s it. Within about 30 seconds they’re in tension reduction talking about their feelings in that emotionally constipated way western men do (“he just made me so mad!”). Otoh I was told and found to be true that you let the women go at it until the entire code team arrives from your surrounding units because you’re going to basically have to do a full restraint episode for each woman.
(Sorry I have lots of thoughts about violence it’s actually kinda my area of professional expertise.)
We don’t know the actual statistics of what percentage of violent crimes and sexual assaults are committed by women. A lot of woman on man crime (domestic abuse, sexual assault) largely goes unreported when it happens, and hardly ever gets taken seriously when it does.
So long as that is still an issue, that there exists some idea that only men do these things, or mostly do these things, or even get falsely accused of doing these things while being a victim, the statistics cannot be trusted.
Feel free to downvote if it makes you feel righteous, or on “the winning side”.
Men can’t be raped or domestically abused apparently :/
Plenty of women don’t report crimes against them. I think it would be fair to assume that reporting crimes against men in an attempt to sway these numbers probably would’t change much or might even swing them further in women’s favor.
By definition you do not have the data for this argument to be credible.
Sexual assaults on women not reported
https://womenfamilies.org/why-most-sexual-assaults-are-not-reported/
Domestic abuse goes unreported by women
Ergo, if we dig into the data and a) women underreport more crimes against them, or b) everyone’s crimes go underreported and the ratio remains the same.
I’m far more inclined to think more crimes go unreported against women because men tend to be the aggressors far more often.
And I have to add the caveat that I am NOT trying to detract from crimes against men AT ALL during this discussion.
I’m not disputing the idea that violence against women gets underreported. I am saying that there is a lack of data here by definition and it is therefore impossible to guess how much one gender or the other is underreported relative to each other. If you want to quantify things, you need data instead of a feeling. You linking these two articles strikes me as you googling whatever you could find that parrots back a conclusion you already had in your head.
The fact that you repeat your conclusion despite not having evidence to back it up is a sign that you might be falling victim to confirmation bias. You should maybe spend a little more time examining whether or not your worldview has you jumping to conclusions in the absence of data.
I don’t know and have no way of knowing which gender underreports abuse more, and the nature of underreporting makes it tough to trust any data on this topic without digging into how it gets collected.
I would posit that, generally speaking, women are generally less capable of harm that would necessitate calling the cops on your partner. Yes this is a generalization, but i think it holds true that men are generally more durable and physically stronger than women, and a lot of times a woman hitting a man is just not going to meet the threshold of that man thinking “oh, violence is being done to me, let me call the police”. However if the same force she is applying were applied to herself, she may get injured or at least be more likely to perceive that force to warrant calling the authorities.
I don’t know how I could prove or disprove that assertion. God knows there’s plenty of anecdotal evidence out there but I’m not aware of many credible studies that talk about woman->man violence.
It’s also known that plenty of men don’t report sexual assaults by women against them because then they would be seen as weak or “lucky” because “You didn’t get raped, she just wanted to. I wish I were you!”
He just said that. Why did you repeat it?
Because they don’t report the offences against them for different reasons.
Women don’t report crimes because no one will believe them, they’re over exaggerating, or it never happened.
When men don’t report it, it’s because they’re pussies, why didn’t they enjoy it, or belittled by other men because “well you had sex so shut up”.
I didn’t repeat anything they said. I laid out the difference in which the genders may underreport and why.
But we can trust something else: it is more scary for a woman to walk some poorly illuminated city street late at night than it is for a man. So nah, “these figures may not be true” does not negate “this trend does exist”
I question whether that fear is based on something real or just the idea that it would happen. That same idea that makes the law harsher against men committing crimes than women.
Oh, so women do not get raped?
I mean, I don’t believe it’s typically the law that makes things harsher, it’s gender bias in juries.
I guess that depends on how your laws and courts function. Other countries don’t have juries like America does.
It is scary for anyone to walk around at night, as a man who has been robbed at gunpoint. Obviously women have worries like rape that’s more common. I think men are generally less hesitant to be violent towards other men.
If men didn’t “mostly do these things” the meme you’re replying to wouldn’t exist.
Feel free to downvote me if you have enjoyed a sandwich from Arby’s in the last 30 days.
A lot of woman on man crime (domestic abuse, sexual assault) largely goes unreported when it happens
A lot of man-on-woman crime and man-on-man crime largely goes unreported when it happens, too, so that’s a wash, isn’t it?
Do you think woman-on-man crime is unreported more frequently for some reason?
Feel free to down vote this post if it makes you feel anything, really. Nobody cares.
… for some reason
“For some reason”
“For some reason”
Yes! That reason is the rub. It’s a quandary.
Claims alone aren’t very convincing, men are all sorts of people and they’re not all a monolith of supposed masculinity.
See? I’ve even lofted you a slowball.
Step it up ladies. You’re slacking.
Or maybe men should take women as an example, give more high ranking jobs to women (like world leader jobs) so maybe the violence, crimes and all the other bad shit in the world would go down. Us men are a major cause of all the bad shit happening, so maybe we should give more control to the part of the population that doesn’t have thousands of years of bad track record.
Realistically I think they just need to put more work into getting men pregnant.
I’m open to trying, I guess.
Are you open to try or are you open to try
I said what I said!
I saw one case where a woman got raped and she fell pregnant from it. She had to share custody of the child with her rapist. What. The. Fuck.
A woman raped a minor and he was forced to support the child.
Y’know what, this stuff is sexist. It would be completely expected and socially supported for women to defend themselves against such odd claims, but when men do this, it’s because they’re “insecure”, or “whiny”. This is nothing but the projection of patriarchal approach to men as the ones shrugging it off meant to silence them against the clear gender war bullshit.
But then again, we’re in the shitposting community.
If you go to the social media like Facebook and Instagram and look at stuff people post from objective point of view both sexes are equally bad at posting sexist shit. And yet if you go to real world, like a bar or some different social gathering place nothing of this shit matters.
It’s just social media brainwashing by corporations which encourage these kind of idiot content for profit, nothing else.
True! But I’m concerned that, as more young people have Internet as their primary third place and communication platform, more will be dragged into this bullshit for real, so, whether we like it or not, it’s an important place to consider. I already see the social media takes proliferate in the real world, one way or another.
I believe moderators should take more care to eliminate such harmful content from discussion, while we as users can take greater care to neuter it. Then we could start reclaiming normality in our communication despite the efforts to distract and engage.
Especially sexual assault stat. Only the penis haver can do that!
Other “stats” are also both exaggerated or omit nuance.
For example, men actually do commit 85% of murders (not 95%, though) and comprise 81% of victims, so it’s mostly men killing other men.
Not to mention the fact that among ~170.000.000 men living in the US, 13469 of them, which is 0,008%, committed murder in 2024 - and that’s in the country with high crime rate, high police violence, and quite a few gangs still existing one way or another. The chance of a regular person to be a murderer is even lower.
Be the change you wan- wait no nevermind please don’t
that is why conservatives and TERFS are afraid of women in general, they would lose thier ability to feed a war machine, industrial complex fattening defense contractors, plus they would have more control over thier bodies.
*reported crimes
Women are just better at it.
I love this because it has the potential to make an incel implode.
But they do commit ~50% of spouse murders, so at least thet have that for them?
Oh, and the women are vastly underrepresented in the victim statistics.
Interestingly, some researchers when they control for provocation, do find that the difference is because of gender norms, and without them the violence rates equalize - see https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2F0033-2909.119.3.422
Another fun fact, when it comes to incarceration rates women do tend to get more lenient sentences because they are women (and act pitiful on the trail) - however it is slowly changing as more and more judges slowly learn to ignore that bullcrap.
Sources and initial readings can be found in this wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime
It is fun :)
Wouldn’t it be 50%?
No. They’re saying that 93% + 93% = 186%.
Ultraviolence
