Dude my coworker keeps sending me AI astrophysics videos because we have arguments about “new discoveries” not being real. It’s going to make people dumb as hell. Tbf he already is
The easiest way to get out of an argument with me is to send me a YouTube video. It has always been the worst source of information about everything, even worse than early Wikipedia. I will not watch your YouTube video.
And it’s slow as hell. They always think their point is both complicated and interesting. Text remains the best medium for communication.
Sorta depends for me. If I can connect the YouTuber back to something valid like an event where science is held in high esteem or collabs with people I do trust I’ll give it a shot. Basically every single time this is not the case, and in his case it’s literally never the case. Dude searches for his batshit view, clicks the first video without watching it, then sends it like I’m supposed to filter it for him. He’d believe in aliens if the video had 1 million views. He kinda does anyways since the why files is his favorite channel and it’s barely researched (by AI) slop, where whatever his agent can’t disprove becomes a “mystery”
One of the examples that comes to mind is the Navy UAP videos, where he looked at what was clearly a bird, wing flaps and all, locked on to by a fighter jet and said “that’s a craft and WOAH it disappeared (when the pilot lost autotarget)” as well as, “a fighter pilot on Fox said it’s a vehicle of some sort and he’s a lot smarter than you.” And got indignant and walked off when I said, “smarter and paid or a lot dumber than me, either way he’s wrong.”
I brought up the dumbass sheriff chasing Jupiter on a winding road too and he felt it wasn’t Jupiter because the sheriff was an expert witness for some reason. Dude’s cooked
Ai voice or is just text to voice? Some people are adverse to having their voice online like that, but still want to participate in things.
Seemingly AI voice. There’s a really good Kyle Hill video about them.
That was supposed to be to OP, but thanks!
Its like they’re not even people anymore.
Idk about that, but certainly there is a very strong correlation between people like this and those who feel like they need to consult chatgpt or grok to filter out basic facts. Their willingness to give up their own thoughts and opinions bodes poorly for the future, especially of democracy.
give up their own thoughts and opinions, freely
But also
saying ‘its like they’re not people anymore’ is a bit much’
It’s valid critique, but I don’t like the precedence of being stupid also taking away your humanity. Education can fail us in deliberate ways from the top sometimes, I wouldn’t say folks with a bad education aren’t human. Even for folks who lean out of otherwise good education, or who don’t hone their critical thinking skills, I judge them as humans who suck. Being in the middle of a fascist regime and with mainstream news dehumanizing minorities, I think language around humanity is important.
There’s a difference between this and old fashioned stupid. Stupid people still have thoughts, and those thoughts are their own. Even if they’re stupid.
Stupid people still have opinions. They didn’t get them from me, and if they rid they’ve been distorted beyond recognition.
I don’t know if I’m using YouTube the right or the wrong way, but no, not seeing or watching any AI content. I watch like 5-7 channels, I only use the “subscriptions” page. I might watch a recommended video, but those are usually the old videos from the channels I have subscribed to. I have uBlock and another extension that blocks shorts. Maybe it is a shitfest, but I’m not witnessing it. There are plenty of decision we all make.
Unhook should provide more personal control of experiences within Youtube. If I must watch something controversial like discussions about opposition to AI, I use Freetube so that I don’t get bombarded with unnecessary suggestions.
That Unhook sounded interesting, so I turned off my current YouTube add-on (“Hide shorts for Youtube™”) and uhhh, the Unhook literally did nothing but arranged some things around lol. Not for me, the shorts and all were still there. But cool idea I guess.
It works where uBlock is otherwise being cockblocked from working certain parts. I generally use Unhook to get rid of the comments and live chat section, besides changing my location to a non-Western country.
Anyone interested in history better start collecting actual tangible history books before they’re all destroyed, and read & learn from those books, before TPTB use computers & internet & ai to rewrite past history to change & omit past historical events for their own nefarious purposes.
I’m not trying to be contrarian or defeatist here, but would it really be useful if basically everyone else “knows” the official story?
I can 100% see why it would be important to fight for and preserve, but on the individual scale it looks like a steady train to being that weird guy who [hates our country / is a terrorist / believes our people have ever been baddies / etc]
… Yes?
Public knowledge drives public opinion and decision making.
A lack of knowledge of history makes us more likely to repeat history. Rewriting of history is usually a tactic that prevents mistakes of the past from being taught or learned, often for a direct benefit to an entity.
LibGen will always be with us.
Fwiw you can report undisclosed AI videos now but removing the view from your watch history is prob also a good idea
A related issue there is the question of what counts as AI. We all have different expectations about that. What you and I might say is AI. Well, Google might disagree with that because it’s a definitional question and there are competing definitions.
I’m using https://aisloplist.com/ on Firefox and chrome. Seems to work well, not sure why it’s not used by more people.
It’s a community project / extension for identifying and blocking AI channels on YouTube.
Edit: another commenter in this thread mentioned an Android app YouTube Morphe which uses the same index. I don’t know how to link to their comment.
I’ve been looking for something like this. I just want an AI filter on youtube. They already label videos “ai”
Need this mobile too
Yes. Not sure why it’s desktop only.
I have stopped using the youtube frontpage and blocked the algorithmic recommendations from appearing.
Now I only browse my subscriptions.
My recommendations for food history: Tasting History with Max Miller + Townsends
For Military History: Lindybeige
For Medieval Clothing: Bernadette Banner
Medieval Life: V. Birchwood
General History: PremodernistMore recommendations:
Miniminuteman (history/debunking viral claims)
Ancient Americas (video essays about various pre-contact societies in the Americas)
Time Team (filming archaeologists as they excavate a site)
A Brush With Bekah (demonstrations of historical pigment use, plus education about why it’s toxic AF)
Google debunkers unite!
i never login on Yt, so i try to swamp the algorithim my preferred feeds, of certain kinds of videos, pets/animal science, clips of old shows.
For military history also Animarchy and if you like a touch of weirdness, Lazerpig.
For food, Weird Fruit Explorer is awesome. It’s very niche, but high level he’s a contortionist who loves extremely rare fruit and travels the world on a mission to try every fruit there is, the rarer and weirder the better.
It’s a very fun show. Sort by most watched though since not all episodes are the most interesting IMO.
History in Taberna is also great.
And Stefan Milo.
And How to Drink, when the episodes are more history focused.
For ancient history and prehistory, there are extraordinary riches:
History With Cy
Dan Davis History
Stefan Milo
Ancient Architects
World Of Antiquity
toldinstoneA good way to find more, pull that thread, is to see which other YouTube channels these channels follow.
Seconding Max Miller. For history I would also like to recommend Timeghost. I suspect that most people interested in the world wars already know, but for those who don’t; they’ve done both WWI and WWII week by week, with deep dives into big events (including a 24-hour D-Day documentary) and a big focus on the human cost of war. I cannot recommend them enough to anyone interested in recent history!
Another good food history one is OTR On the Road (got to the naming game late, I guess)
Try older videos or a different website
Nebula is a pretty good source for History vids.
Thanks I’ll check it out
My algorithm knows better. It knows I won’t hesitate to delete my history and fuck up its metrics.
I have been using YouTube on the same account for like 15 years and I have never deleted my watch history :o
Honestly I wish I hadn’t done it the first time. I didn’t think it actually would affect the algorithm, and it screwed things up for a bit. It really did help when I stopped watching chud crap though.
you should look on fmhy.net (free media heck yea). It gathers all sorts of free internet content like linking to archives with history content or places to find recipes.
Worked better for me than a searchengine for starting with sourdough (my starters could be dead by now)Usually when its ai voice you need to switch the audiochannel.
My YouTube feed is 9/10 in English and for some reason YouTube tries to force German ai voice on me :(
Install the ‘YouTube No Translation’ extension to get rid of it, it’s so incredibly annoying. Insane that Google still can’t fathom bilingual people existing 🙄
The amount of extensions that I need to have to make YouTube a usable experience again istg
true, I currently have about 5 or 6 extensions to keep that crap usable.
Ublockorigin for ads, improve YouTube for misc enhancements (block shorts, delete button on playlists, codec options), hyperchat to optimize the slow chat on live streams, that no translation extension, sponsorblock to skip in-video ads and identify sponsored content. Theres also dearrow but I disable it for performance reasons.
On mobile it not better, but Morphe fixes all of those quirks too.
Just amazing how shitty a service can get, but shareholder value shall rise infinitely I guess
Unhook can be pretty useful too. Fixed my youtube experience, pretty much.
Just looked it up, seems like Improve YouTube already does pretty much the same things as unhook (hiding unwanted sections, redirecting home to another page)
They prolly took US-Americans as a standard lol
Possibly true.
Lately, Youtube decided it would be a great idea to automatically translate every video into every language, so that people can watch videos from other languages without any barrier. A good idea in theory, maybe, but they implemented it by replacing the original creator’s voice with an AI-voiced AI translation (without the creator’s consent, of course) … and the technology is far from good enough to accomplish that well.
Tbh I’ve gotten almost 0 AI generated content in my YT recommendations. Algorithm knows I won’t like it I guess
where does one learn such power? I’m daily blocking the entire recommendation section to not getting nuts
Turn off history when signed in maybe? Turning it off seems to work for me. Most of my recommendations on the side when signed in are from channels I have already subscribed to, while I typically avoid clicking on channels and videos that have clickbait-y thumbnails or titles.
I’ve got search history off, watch history on. When I watch something that I don’t want to see more of popping up in my recommendations, I immediately remove it from history after. The resulting watch history plus a small number of core subscriptions results in quite useable recommendations for me.
Most of the content I watch is stuff that’s less likely to be ai generated I think
Respect for using the “Le Me” format… It’s an older code but it checks out.
Yeah, but i got confused on the first panel and thought they had mangled Lemmy, before i remembered Le Me.
Lemmy was foretold… we just didn’t know… 🫣
What’s been helpful recently is having a different native language than English. Coupled with the no translation extension that prevents YouTube’s AI from dubbing stuff I already understand, I sometimes get interesting and specific recommendations.
Otherwise, stick to known channels.
EDIT: The downside of speaking multiple languages with YouTube’s AI push is that it’s gonna try to translate everything to you as if you were monolingual. Set YouTube in English and it will translate everything in English, even if you speak French or German. Set YouTube In French and it will translate everything in French even if you can speak English. This shit is horrible.
I found a really cool video I think comparing the pacific rim robots. Only got 2-3 minutes in because the AI voice over threw me off.
Checked out the channel and they made a kinda face reveal saying thank you for the views, with their actual voice. Even with their accent, I would have much preferred the human accented voice, verses the “perfect” computer voice
“verses” is poetry. You wanted “versus”, aka “vs”.
Technically, verse isn’t synonymous with poetry, and a section of a poem is more properly a stanza. So if we’re going to be pedantic about typos, we should at least be pedantic correctly.
