Try them in court, convict, and then line them up with their families watching and shoot them in the face and make it required viewing for every kid on the planet.
Motherfuckers, you labeled me as tolerant because I don’t hate people for immutable characteristics they were born with. That doesn’t mean I’m tolerant of nazis maga traitors.
We are limited by our material conditions. In an ideal world, every Nazi would be reeducated and rehabilitated, no matter how long it takes. We don’t have the capacity or the time for that. We have to stop them now, by any means necessary, before it’s too late.
Because you can spend your whole life telling nazis to act like decent compassionate people, and you won’t change the mind of a single one. Don’t waste your life, waste them instead.
It’s not semantics. People have their own reasons to do things. They know that others reject them and informing them once more that somebody considers them wrong doesn’t change anything.
To change somebody, they need a new insight that makes them reevaluate their preferences.
Yes, until your last sentence. It doesn’t matter which words you use but what you mean. If by telling you mean respectful conversations, then that’s the right approach. Then I would like to know why you think that it does not work.
It can be super difficult when your only opportunity for survival is to become one of Immortan Joe’s war boys, and are trained that your only path to redemption is to be a hero, to be witnessed as you sacrifice yourself in battle.
Hey now! Just look at history and you’ll see how often non-violence works! Like for instance checks notes …uh oh frantically flipping through notes guys, oh no!
But we must always focus on our goal of minimizing suffering. The path to evil comes when we focus more on us vs them and hurting the enemy than we are on building a better world. Fetishization of violence is a dangerous path.
I lament that I believe that violence and public executions are necessary, but I do. But I also don’t believe it’s sufficient. We must also build a better world.
Fuck this noise. Kill Nazis and fascists.
Try them in court, convict, and then line them up with their families watching and shoot them in the face and make it required viewing for every kid on the planet.
So much for the tolerant left…
Motherfuckers, you labeled me as tolerant because I don’t hate people for immutable characteristics they were born with. That doesn’t mean I’m tolerant of nazis maga traitors.
So why shoot Nazis if that is mutable and we can help them to change?
We are limited by our material conditions. In an ideal world, every Nazi would be reeducated and rehabilitated, no matter how long it takes. We don’t have the capacity or the time for that. We have to stop them now, by any means necessary, before it’s too late.
That’s a trap. There are maybe 10% Nazis so there is still time, and there was more time when there were fewer. Why haven’t we acted then?
Because you can spend your whole life telling nazis to act like decent compassionate people, and you won’t change the mind of a single one. Don’t waste your life, waste them instead.
That’s true for everything. Nobody wants to be told. It takes human interaction to change a mind.
Telling isn’t a human interaction? Are you really going to use a semantics argument to defend nazi shitfucks?
It’s not semantics. People have their own reasons to do things. They know that others reject them and informing them once more that somebody considers them wrong doesn’t change anything.
To change somebody, they need a new insight that makes them reevaluate their preferences.
The semantics part is arguing that “telling” doesn’t mean human interaction…
Extreme example: Human interaction? That could mean a fist-fight, the only difference between a nazi and a carebear is brotherly love!
That’s the gist of your argument; that I didn’t use the right words to describe in detail how try to instill some empathy in nazis.
Yes, until your last sentence. It doesn’t matter which words you use but what you mean. If by telling you mean respectful conversations, then that’s the right approach. Then I would like to know why you think that it does not work.
Tolerance paradox is the only way forward. They deserve no quarter.
“So MuCh FoR tHe ToLeRaNt LeFt!!”
Pictured: Antifa social group, North Africa club, 1943, being as tolerant as they can
Those Nazis really get my goat!
And if they don’t like this, there’s always the super easily, highly convenient solution of NOT BEING A NAZI.
Exactly. A person can want every nazi dead and hope that nobody has to die while being completely logically and morally covered.
But that’s not fair my skin is white and that means I’m important because insert fascist leader said so.
It can be super difficult when your only opportunity for survival is to become one of Immortan Joe’s war boys, and are trained that your only path to redemption is to be a hero, to be witnessed as you sacrifice yourself in battle.
Hey now! Just look at history and you’ll see how often non-violence works! Like for instance checks notes …uh oh frantically flipping through notes guys, oh no!
Nah, they should be treated the way they treat others.
Nazis are the only group that deserve to be gassed.
Hooray
Let’s all have barbecue afterwards because these fucks don’t get to put a stain on our day
Barbeque the Naizis ALIIIVE!
But we must always focus on our goal of minimizing suffering. The path to evil comes when we focus more on us vs them and hurting the enemy than we are on building a better world. Fetishization of violence is a dangerous path.
I lament that I believe that violence and public executions are necessary, but I do. But I also don’t believe it’s sufficient. We must also build a better world.
Reign of Terror ass motherfucker
#2 electric boogaloo
A trial with due process is key. But, they’d need to be kicked out of power, first. Somehow. Because Nazis won’t convict Nazis, obviously.
I’m not looking forward to what happens if they steal the mid-terms.
I for one can’t wait to see who the modern John C Woods will be