• Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    So much for the tolerant left…

    Motherfuckers, you labeled me as tolerant because I don’t hate people for immutable characteristics they were born with. That doesn’t mean I’m tolerant of nazis maga traitors.

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      12 hours ago

      I don’t hate people for immutable characteristics

      So why shoot Nazis if that is mutable and we can help them to change?

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        4 hours ago

        We are limited by our material conditions. In an ideal world, every Nazi would be reeducated and rehabilitated, no matter how long it takes. We don’t have the capacity or the time for that. We have to stop them now, by any means necessary, before it’s too late.

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          4 hours ago

          That’s a trap. There are maybe 10% Nazis so there is still time, and there was more time when there were fewer. Why haven’t we acted then?

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        12 hours ago

        Because you can spend your whole life telling nazis to act like decent compassionate people, and you won’t change the mind of a single one. Don’t waste your life, waste them instead.

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          12 hours ago

          your whole life telling

          That’s true for everything. Nobody wants to be told. It takes human interaction to change a mind.

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            5 hours ago

            Telling isn’t a human interaction? Are you really going to use a semantics argument to defend nazi shitfucks?

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              5 hours ago

              It’s not semantics. People have their own reasons to do things. They know that others reject them and informing them once more that somebody considers them wrong doesn’t change anything.

              To change somebody, they need a new insight that makes them reevaluate their preferences.

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                4 hours ago

                The semantics part is arguing that “telling” doesn’t mean human interaction…

                Extreme example: Human interaction? That could mean a fist-fight, the only difference between a nazi and a carebear is brotherly love!

                That’s the gist of your argument; that I didn’t use the right words to describe in detail how try to instill some empathy in nazis.

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                  4 hours ago

                  Yes, until your last sentence. It doesn’t matter which words you use but what you mean. If by telling you mean respectful conversations, then that’s the right approach. Then I would like to know why you think that it does not work.

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                    4 hours ago

                    Because you can spend your whole life telling singing kumbaya, hugging, kissing, talking about your feelings and experiences, traveling and learning about new cultures with nazis to instill a greater sense of humanity to get nazis to act like decent compassionate people, and you won’t change the mind of a single one. Don’t waste your life, waste them instead.

                    There is an extra special version of my comment just for you.