• plyth@feddit.org
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    3 hours ago

    It’s not semantics. People have their own reasons to do things. They know that others reject them and informing them once more that somebody considers them wrong doesn’t change anything.

    To change somebody, they need a new insight that makes them reevaluate their preferences.

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      3 hours ago

      The semantics part is arguing that “telling” doesn’t mean human interaction…

      Extreme example: Human interaction? That could mean a fist-fight, the only difference between a nazi and a carebear is brotherly love!

      That’s the gist of your argument; that I didn’t use the right words to describe in detail how try to instill some empathy in nazis.

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        3 hours ago

        Yes, until your last sentence. It doesn’t matter which words you use but what you mean. If by telling you mean respectful conversations, then that’s the right approach. Then I would like to know why you think that it does not work.

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          2 hours ago

          Because you can spend your whole life telling singing kumbaya, hugging, kissing, talking about your feelings and experiences, traveling and learning about new cultures with nazis to instill a greater sense of humanity to get nazis to act like decent compassionate people, and you won’t change the mind of a single one. Don’t waste your life, waste them instead.

          There is an extra special version of my comment just for you.

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            2 hours ago

            Why? Fascism requires people to give up compassion. If fascists are approached with compassion, not in the kumbaya, hugging, kissing but the kumbaya, hugging, kissing way, how can they remain fascists?

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              2 hours ago

              You’d have to talk to a fucking psychologist to figure that one out.

              But some people just decide that we need an all white, all Christians ethno-state, and everyone who doesn’t fit in that category can leave, or preferentially, not be allowed to leave and kept as slave labor. I’ve already spent too much of my own life trying to convince those people that such an arrangement harms everyone involved, and recognizing different cultures, backgrounds, traditions, and life experiences makes you a happier and better person.

              And yet they still join up with the proudboys and loudly proclaim that white western chauvinists built the modern world while everyone was trying to drag them down and ruin it.

              Being a nazi shitfuck is a choice. It’s a choice made in glaring defiance of human experiences that we all have every day. Unless they were literally raised in a nazi cult that forbade going outside the compound, then they’ve had a choice to stop being a nazi shitfuck every day, every hour, every minute, every second… And every time, they gleefully and repeatedly make the wrong choice.

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                2 hours ago

                I’ve already spent too much of my own life trying to convince those people

                What makes them tick? Why do they long for the ethno-state?

                made in glaring defiance of human experiences

                I don’t think that’s possible. People decide based on their experiences. Isn’t that the cause, some different experiences or better, lack of positive experiences?

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                  1 hour ago

                  It’s clear you’re not actually reading what I wrote. I’m not going to bother rehashing things I’ve already said, for a 3rd time, just for you. Have a nice day advocating for nazis with empty semantic out picking.

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                    1 hour ago

                    I have read what you wrote. Where have you answered this?

                    What makes them tick? Why do they long for the ethno-state?

                    I’ve already said, for a 3rd time

                    I don’t have to hear again. I understand that you don’t believe that their minds can be changed. I would like to know why you think that.

                    So I still hope that you tell me why you think they want the ethno-state.