Because it’s short-sighted and ridiculous. Yes Russia bombs are bad, yes some NATO bombs are necessary but many are also bad, some Israeli bombs may have been necessary in the past but are now overwhelmingly bad.
This is dumb “tankie” talk that tries to push people into corners that are comfortable for the OP so that they don’t have to use their brain and think about whether people’s world views may be more complex and (eep!) sometimes more well-thought of than their own simplistic view of “NATO bad - Communism good”.
And lastly, as many posts on here, it simply reeks of anti-western propaganda.
But this is literally how western media and leaders are portraying this. All bombs are bad, NATO or Russia or China or Iran or Israel I don’t care. And fuck Israeli bombs in particular where and why would bombs by a colonial entity committing genocide ever be necessary wtf?
It’s just American, Israeli and other (extreme) right wing media. So it’s not “western media”.
And no, bombs on an actual terrorist’s head are good bombs. A bomb on Hitler’s ass (like the attempted “Valkyrie” bombing) would have been a damn near perfect bomb.
And as for the Israeli bombs – and as I told the other guy – try to read what I actually said and not what you expect to read based on your prejudices.
Because it’s short-sighted and ridiculous. Yes Russia bombs are bad, yes some NATO bombs are necessary but many are also bad, some Israeli bombs may have been necessary in the past but are now overwhelmingly bad.
But I did and you’re just pushing Western imperialist propaganda, what’s going on here? Israel is literally a Western colony that destabilises the rest of the region and is genociding the locals, the West has done nothing but terrorise the world for hundreds of years… Are you denying this or what?
Russian bombs are bad not because of the flag, but because they consistently target civilians indiscriminately. Plus the whole invading a neighbor, murdering the people and stealing the land.
Say what you want about Bush, even that war criminal didn’t go as far.
Say what you want about Bush, even that war criminal didn’t go as far.
Genuinely not defending Russia here, but Dubya’s pretext for invading Iraq and Afghanistan was if anything even flimsier than the “justification” for the Ukraine invasion, and that war killed way more people, civilians and not.
You can just look up the numbers. This isn’t some secret knowledge. 400k civilians directly killed, on the low end, millions more dead from famine and displacement. Versus like 15-20k in Ukraine.
The estimates I’ve seen are 300.000 killed in Iraq. There’s more Russians killed alone than that, let alone Ukrainian military and civilian casualties…
Just 15172 civilians killed in Ukraine, according to UN, though. About 40k injured. That’s the lower estimate, yes, but, in comparison, the USA has committed more than 100k confirmed civilians kills in just Iraq alone.
Say what you want about Bush, even that war criminal didn’t go as far.
Any point you might’ve had about land acquisition, separatism, or imperialism, is pretty hard invalidated by this comparison. Like, why add Bush as a qualifier?
To those who’ve down voted this,why if I may ask? Genuinely curious
Because it’s short-sighted and ridiculous. Yes Russia bombs are bad, yes some NATO bombs are necessary but many are also bad, some Israeli bombs may have been necessary in the past but are now overwhelmingly bad.
This is dumb “tankie” talk that tries to push people into corners that are comfortable for the OP so that they don’t have to use their brain and think about whether people’s world views may be more complex and (eep!) sometimes more well-thought of than their own simplistic view of “NATO bad - Communism good”.
And lastly, as many posts on here, it simply reeks of anti-western propaganda.
But this is literally how western media and leaders are portraying this. All bombs are bad, NATO or Russia or China or Iran or Israel I don’t care. And fuck Israeli bombs in particular where and why would bombs by a colonial entity committing genocide ever be necessary wtf?
It’s just American, Israeli and other (extreme) right wing media. So it’s not “western media”.
And no, bombs on an actual terrorist’s head are good bombs. A bomb on Hitler’s ass (like the attempted “Valkyrie” bombing) would have been a damn near perfect bomb.
And as for the Israeli bombs – and as I told the other guy – try to read what I actually said and not what you expect to read based on your prejudices.
That’s what you said and that’s why I responded to.
And where did it say the genocide bombs are good exactly?
there
I know what I wrote, which, incidentally, is not that.
But no, not there. Try again.
https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/39233789/19405382
Just making shit up are we?
haha I missed the “overwhelmingly bad” implying that you think some of the bombs today are good
It’s nice to see that Lemmy is about 3/5 sane people, based on the upvote/downvote ratio here.
Lol Israeli and NATO bombs were necessary? Man, may God forgive you for your lack of humanity and overall ignorance.
Try to read the sentence again. Slowly.
But I did and you’re just pushing Western imperialist propaganda, what’s going on here? Israel is literally a Western colony that destabilises the rest of the region and is genociding the locals, the West has done nothing but terrorise the world for hundreds of years… Are you denying this or what?
Ok, tankie.
I know you just learned this word and are very excited to use it but try to stay on topic.
Ok, tankie.
Being called a tankie by smug liberals on Lemmy.world is a badge of honour. Wear it with pride 👍🏻
Ok, tankie.
Russian bombs are bad not because of the flag, but because they consistently target civilians indiscriminately. Plus the whole invading a neighbor, murdering the people and stealing the land.
Say what you want about Bush, even that war criminal didn’t go as far.
Genuinely not defending Russia here, but Dubya’s pretext for invading Iraq and Afghanistan was if anything even flimsier than the “justification” for the Ukraine invasion, and that war killed way more people, civilians and not.
No it fucking didn’t. The completely delusional claim of yours is a good example of why this blanket statement is so stupid.
You can just look up the numbers. This isn’t some secret knowledge. 400k civilians directly killed, on the low end, millions more dead from famine and displacement. Versus like 15-20k in Ukraine.
The estimates I’ve seen are 300.000 killed in Iraq. There’s more Russians killed alone than that, let alone Ukrainian military and civilian casualties…
Ok, some in Yemen and Somalia too, but Wikipedia claims the cost of life of the gwot was 4.5 million, and I’ve seen credible estimates as high as 6.
And I think in this situation we’d only really be comparing Ukrainian casualties to them.
Just 15172 civilians killed in Ukraine, according to UN, though. About 40k injured. That’s the lower estimate, yes, but, in comparison, the USA has committed more than 100k confirmed civilians kills in just Iraq alone.
Any point you might’ve had about land acquisition, separatism, or imperialism, is pretty hard invalidated by this comparison. Like, why add Bush as a qualifier?
To prevent tankies from accusing me of US bias.
Not helping your credibility
Said the tankie…
Yes, and as usual the tankie is correct
Said the tankie…
Lol try harder halfwit
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I did in another comment…
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Too lazy
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That’s new…
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I didn’t, but I’m assuming they just haven’t heard anyone say that it’s good to be nuked by NATO.
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