Claiming that not having a socialist state was/is the right alternative in the historical context is materially identical to advocating for the genocide of all non-German ethnicities between Berlin and the Urals and the colonization of China at the hands of Europe, Japan and the US.

Sure, the Soviets should have just dismantled the state, that would have totally not led to Nazis exterminating everyone between Berlin and the Urals as they claimed to desire! Dismantling socialist states is something you should totally realistically desire while there still exist capitalist and fascist empires! China should have totally dismantled its state too, surely wouldn’t have become a colonized English territory again as during the opium wars killing tens of millions! /s

Right they can print the money to pay their debts… What happens then? Inflation

Sure, buddy, giving currency to China somehow generates inflation in the domestic economy. You’re literally making stuff up as you go, and you’re showing it

If they taught you Keynesian economics in econ 101 you can consider yourself lucky

it’s a fact proven by many independent media

The media in question: BBC, US institute of sinophobia, Washington think tank for the hatred of communism, all of them based on Adrian Zenz and “anonymous interviews”. The UN has never called it a genocide actually and you’d know this if you gave a shit about Uyghur.

Xi Jinping consistently usurps the power, builds personality cult, and destroys the opposition within the party.

Again with CIA propaganda, Chinese people have a different opinion

A classic excuse politically is to say the immigrants and minorities are taking it

In Spain the scapegoats are usually Latin American immigrants, Moroccan immigrants, Romanian immigrants and south-Sahara immigrants, together with ofc the extremely violent racism against the Roma people prevalent in all of Europe. Ofc all these people are the backbone of the economy with their hard labor.

It’s such a vicious cycle fascism and wealth inequality

It really fucking is. Europe can’t compete internationally against China’s economy and increasingly can’t maintain control over its neocolonies, so the only way to increase corporate profits is by destroying our salaries and lowering their taxes, and the capitalists pull out the far-right and fascism in response to this, as a tool to discipline us in case we get too creative with worker rights and unionization.

If you’re interested on a video about how the social credit thing actually works, explained by a Chinese, you can watch this one, it’s clear and concise enough.

I think with the being afraid to speak out thing I was more talking about the media walking on eggshells as just an unwritten rule

Hmmm, I think there’s a part of truth to this. There is a more active state censorship in China than there is in, say, Europe, though I don’t think it takes a punitive form except in extreme cases. In Europe it’s private sector censorship: a journalist cannot write explicitly socialist opinions in a newspaper at risk of being fired, and the few journals that allow for this are fringe, heavily criticized, and don’t receive any funding (most media here are unprofitable by themselves and survive by cash infusions from other parts of the private sector with vested interests in controlling the public narrative). On the other hand, the censorship in China makes it so that there aren’t big crowds of far-right reactionary conspiracy theorists: imagine how many thousands and thousands of lives saved by the lack of vaccine denialists, facemask deniers, or fake natural cancer therapies.

I mean, the US is worse for a fact right now with Trump, we still have a measure of social welfare, but it’s only been disintegrating and never so much as recovering a bit in the entirety of my adult life, and this applies to all of Europe. In Spain, a leftist party called Podemos recently became hugely popular trying to change this, and got an orchestrated smear campaign consisting of manufactured false evidence of funding by Iran and Venezuela which was fabricated by a reactionary corps within the national police under direction of the minister of interior affairs, and leaked to all capitalist media (we have two big media groups in Spanish Television, and one of them belongs to far-right Italian politician and pedophile Silvio Berlusconi, rest in piss fucker). This all but destroyed the party in a matter of a few years.

Something similar happened in Greece, they elected a leftist party called Syriza to government and they won the elections under the premise of reverting neoliberal policy. The EU intervened through the infamous “Troika” and told Greece that if it stopped cutting the budgets of healthcare and education it would be kicked out of the EU and the Euro. It’s truly sad and disgusting.

I literally explained you that Xinjiang used to be exempt from single-child policy for the longest time and then stopped being. Fines for people with more than one child were the norm in all of fucking China, you uneducated twat. The rest of the text quoted are the famous “anonymous interviews”, and fearmongering using the availability of family planning in fucking hospitals

Xinjiang hospital slides obtained by the AP show that pregnancy prevention injections, sometimes with the hormonal medication Depo-Provera, are a common family planning measure

Omg, people in Xinjiang have access to family planning, literally genocide.

In other efforts to change the population balance of Xinjiang, China is dangling land, jobs and economic subsidies to lure Han migrants there. It is also aggressively promoting intermarriage between Han Chinese and Uighurs

Oh noooo, economic subsidies in the region and promoting cultural exchange, literally genocide!!

Honestly, fuck you. This bullshit is a form of genocide denial by minimization, claiming that everything is a genocide is actually extremely negative towards Palestinians suffering actual genocide.

“No, you see, when it’s an imperialist nation claiming Mongolia’s entire country as its territory with US military bases it doesn’t count, it only counts when it’s a communist country without a recent history of militarism”

Those military drills are also literally in Taiwan to help prepare for a chinese invasion of their land

“No, it’s not militarism, it’s called ‘Ministry of Defense!!!’”

Taiwan literally does this lmao

This is the official territorial claim of the Republic of China (Taiwan), they literally claim that mainland China belongs to them (together with the entirety of Mongolia and several chunks from other countries). Taiwan is literally TODAY carrying out military drills in coordination with the US

You just won’t accept that US military bases (which are being used TODAY to bomb sovereign nations) are by orders of magnitude a bigger threat to China than whatever patrolling China is doing around Taiwan

Ok ok, all nations are equally bad in your head because China could hypothetically do something (this propaganda has been going on for 20 years). Everything is possible when you make shit up!

His “research” consists of conflating a reeducation campaign in the context of ISIS-related terrorism with genocide through mistranslation, cherrypicking and bad faith, and the argument is “the birthrates dropped so it’s genocide”. Birthrates dropped because Uyghur used to be exempt from the single-child policy (as all minority ethnicities in China) and when Xinjiang started developing at fast pace in the past decades, birthrates dropped dramatically. It takes 10 times more effort to dismantle misinformation than it takes to manufacture it. Go ahead and visit Xinjiang for yourself, you’re open to do so. Blows my mind that you’d take seriously the interpretation of a radical anticommunist and fringe evangelist on Chinese documents he can’t read himself (he doesn’t speak Chinese).

If you really think a CIA asset cannot take public documents in Chinese and misinterpret and twist them enough with the purpose of manufacturing antichinese propaganda, idk what to tell you.

You’re right, they’re not comparable, China hasn’t engaged in military action for the past 50 years whereas the US hasn’t stopped being at war in that same period of time and has just some weeks ago started bombing another sovereign country from its surrounding military bases

Surely not a threat to China at all!!

You are a fucking joke

“LoOk, AdRiAn ZeNz ClAiMs ItS a GeNoCiDe”

If you gave one single flying fuck about the Uyghur, you’d know that the reeducation schools closed years ago and you wouldn’t be propagating CIA propaganda for free on the internet.

But go ahead, keep disseminating CIA-fabricated lies about China while the US supports the genocide of Palestinians and literally INVADES AND BOMBS IRAN, you’re incredibly moral and leftist buddy

Questioning capitalist state propaganda is something any deserving leftist, let alone anarchist should do (specified anarchist because you brought up Blahaj). You’ve literally seen what they’ve been doing with Gaza

It can just as well show how indoctrinated people are in China (and it in fact does by looking at a second graph, it’s comical to claim that China is a democracy)

Of course, the real democracies are the ones people hate. I feel so democratic here in Spain, where we get to enjoy voting once every 4 years the colour of the party that will apply neoliberal austerity policy and progress in the erosion of healthcare, education and pensions! So democratic when every 4, at most 8 years, people hate-vote their way out of the existing government coalition and move to the other side of the isle which repeats exactly the same EU-dictated policy.

I feel so democratic knowing that, if you start a leftist party, the deep state will literally fabricate false evidence of funding by Venezuela and Iran and leak it to all capitalist media to discredit you and demolish your party (read about Podemos and the Informe PISA). So democratic that the institutions do nothing about the rise of the far right in Europe at the same time! God I love our democracy.

Surely it’s the Chinese being brainwashed by their evil government consistently taking millions of people out of poverty every year, building affordable housing, producing all the photovoltaic solar panel supply of the planet and not letting themselves be bought out by oil corps.

Source: the same national news stations that have been denying the Palestinian genocide by Isntreal for the past 3 years. They’ve literally taken off the mask, how do you still believe their propaganda?

There are no threats to Chinese territorial waters

Then you surely agree there are no threats to Taiwan by China?