Why on earth is OpenOffice here??
LibreOffice is the maintained fork.
It has been that way for 16 years now.
16 years.
There are people working full time jobs who were born the same year that LibreOffice started.
Stop promoting OpenOffice. People will have problems with it that have been long fixed in LibreOffice.
Edit: typo
Tbf I haven’t used either extensively (or at least the features I’ve used in either have been very basic one), but I haven’t had any issues with OpenOffice. What are some of the issues you’re referring to in OpenOffice? Personally I tend to prefer it because I just think it looks nicer, but clearly there are some issues with it I’m unaware of.
Edit: Nvm, I’m mixing up OnlyOffice and OpenOffice. Never even heard of OpenOffice before…
It’s been over 10 years since I tried it, but at that time it was common for OpenOffice to have compatibility issues with MS office formats, but those issues were already fixed in LibreOffice.
Isn’t that sort of an issue with LibreOffice today though? At least in the sense that there are features in for example Microsoft Word where, if you use them in a document, and then open that document in LibreOffice Writer, it won’t render correctly/won’t function? I struggle to give you an example because it was a along time since I tried to do that, but I have definitely run into some compatibility issues there, on the side of LibreOffice. Maybe you’re referring to something else though?
Edit: Nvm, I’m mixing up OnlyOffice with OpenOffice. Never used OpenOffice, don’t even know what it is.
What is only office then?
OnlyOffice was an office suite developed by Sun Microsystems. Oracle stopped development whel they bought Sun. eventually the developers got fed up and founded the Open Document Foundation. oracle threw kind of a hissy fit, then eventually gave up and donated Open Office to the Apache foundation. Apache alleges Open Office is an active project, but they’re just shuffling deck chairs. Open Office is dead, and Oracle killed it. Libre Office is what Open Office used to be, and moreedit: what the fuck is only office?
I think you misread “only office” as “open office”. Though, you typed both in your reply… 🤔
ah shit. you’re right. sr moment. what the fuck is only office?
Haha classic.
Good info in this comment https://lemmy.world/comment/22430995
Its only office.
Only Office is an open source free suite that is developed by Ascension System SIA. It is open source but has a paid option for corporate support. It offers cloud storage servers or local server storage.
When I retired, I wanted to ditch LibreOffice because I just don’t need a full office suite anymore. So I tried Only Office for a bit. It’s kind of like the office suite we have at home. It’s fine for most people. But I always had issues with it dying on me under Fedora and Mint.
After a while, I realized I didn’t even need that much office anymore. So I’m back to where it all began on Linux-- AbiWord and Gnumeric. That’s all I need anymore. It’s refreshing how a mere 125Gigs of storage on a cheap mini desktop can show what you really only need.
Because I can understand “Open” while “Libre” sounds strange. — most people, probably
Apache OpenOffice??
Surely you meant LibreOffice. OpenOffice has basically been dead for years, with no significant work going on.
Lmao I’ve been doing a digital forensics class online, and it’s always got VMs with ancient versions of software on it, so I got to discover what Apache OpenOffice was. Love that they have to use FOSS to teach us shit since Windows needs a subscription.
Typo
I almost wrote dogital forensics. Is that using dogs to find data? Sniff out that hard drive and get datadumping boy!
get datadumping boy!
remember to scoop the poop after
Jesus those images must be 15-20 years old. I guess that’s probably still good enough for the basics but there’s been a lot of changes since then.
We’re always on some ancient Kali version and Windows XP to 10, and once we used some Linux Distro I’d never heard of in my life. The software is Autopsy, OSForensics, ProDiscover Basic 64, Hex Workshop, and more, a bonus one being IceWeasel (now known as GNU IceCat?). I genuinely want to gouge my eyes out when looking at the old Kali.
LibreOffice has been updated? Interface still looks like it was designed for Windows 95.
It still looks and behaves like StarOffice.
The templates they include look ancient as well. They do have a mediocre copy of Microsoft’s ribbon interface.
I mean, there’s no such thing as a good copy of Microsoft’s ribbon interface.
🪟: absolutely atrocious. let’s do for-profit low quality software instead 😡
Tux, FF and VLC have been dailies in my life for over a decade. Many MANY thanks to them, and to ALL those pipple.
Reminds me a local youtuber saying something similar about non-profit companies.
They said it’s human nature to be driven by profit, so non-profits are profiting in some other way. Hence he prefers to give business to for profit companies as you know their intentions.
IDK, but I’d rather be the beta tester for some open source project, or even contribute code to it (I fixed a language server this way), than to pay premium for a software, which I won’t “own”, has a bunch of microtransactions, and becomes lower and lower in quality.
I’d doing something that makes you happy is a kind of profiting then he is right. But he is probably not that wholesome.
Well unfortunately he’s right. Most non-profit companies are profiting off of things like your donations and such like that. You look at the Susan g Komen foundation for breast cancer awareness. Something like 5% maybe 10% of all donated funds actually go to breast cancer research. The rest of the funds are used to fund the staff including those that are in charge of the board. And they have massive paydays.
Oh the irony
As someone who recently started getting into digital art, I’m genuinely shocked at how good Krita is.
This is a raster graphics editor that could could potentially rival the likes of Photoshop, Affinity Photo and Paint Shop Pro in terms of features. GIMP by comparison is dogshit.
So many people let perfect be the enemy of good. Firefox is great. It’s the pillar of non-Chromium of browsers. Servo and Ladybird are not there yet and will take many years to surpass Firefox if ever. A Firefox fork has a better shot than those 2
GIMP is great software. Is it just Photoshop and Affinity better than it. Not seeing as much hate on Inkscape when it’s just Adobe and Affinity as better.
OpenOffice is outdated but was good for like ~2010
A bunch of y’all would have been ragging on Blender 10 years ago. Ragging on Krita. In 2012 acting like gaming in Linux was doomed. In 2015 acting like Kdenlive would never reduce crashes and improve functionality. Acted like Darktable would never be competitive with Lightroom. Godot would be no good for anything more than 2d sidescrollers and never compete with Unity 5. A bunch of do nothing fence sitters. Firefox and GIMP developers contribute more to the good of humanity than anyone crying about them in this thread
A Firefox fork has a better shot than those 2
Yes.
For example, LibreWolf skipped the AI forced-down-the-throat drama.
I think maybe LibreWolf only ships with Debian, by default; but it is also in the repositories for Mint, and so I assume also Ubuntu.
Librowolf is not a fork, just a set of patches on top of Firefox stable.
I’m not sure Firefox belongs on this list. Google finances Mozilla’s operation to the tune of $420M a year. It’s not for-profit, but it’s also not the same as the others.
Google wants to finance anything they can get their damn search engine into, that’s not entirely the fault of Firefox. I still use a firefox-based browser, but only for now.
There is ladybird on the horizon, a browser being built from scratch, not based on either Gecko or Webkit.
Servo is way way way ahead and isn’t being built by fascist white supremacist and sympathizers.
who are the fascists and white supremacists?
If you have better ideas for financing firefox, go ahead :)
First of all, I’d get rid of a CEO that wants to be paid millions of dollars a year.
shoutout to ffmpeg!
Maybe some day I can read that without adding an R
firefox? no profit incentive? we wish
Same can be said about the Linux Kernel.
Openoffice-> LibreOfficeSeriously, don’t use OpenOffice, it’s abandoned for over 10 years.
With enshitification nowadays, the fact that they’re nonprofit is the reason why the software is good quality.
If you ever feel like you can’t make anything good, keep in mind that companies will intentionally make worse stuff
The Audacity!
Will they get away with it? Vee’ll see.
I’ll go home now, HEY DON’T PUSH ME
In May 2021, after the project was acquired by Muse Group,[58] there was a draft proposal to add opt-in telemetry to the code to record application usage. Some users responded negatively, with accusations of turning Audacity into spyware.[59] The company reversed course, falling back to error/crash reporting and optional update checking instead.[60] Another controversy in July 2021[61] resulted from a change to the privacy policy which said that although personal data was stored on servers in the European Economic Area, the program would “occasionally [be] required to share your personal data with our main office in Russia and our external counsel in the USA”.[62] That July, the Audacity team apologized for the changes to the privacy policy and removed mention of the data storage provision which was added “out of an abundance of caution”.[61]
Awwww… :(
Hey at least they removed mentioning it in the TOS!
Yeyyy!.. :)
…:(
required to share your personal data with our main office in Russia and our external counsel in the USA
Which most probably means that if you report a bug, you send them data about your installation and whatever additional data you include, like the email to contact you.
Lawyers keep stepping on this rake time and again when writing terms and policies.
I stand by blender being the absolute best piece of software I have ever used.
Blender is abso-freaking-great, I just wish they would have been less pokey pokey with the UI over the years.
Search: how do i do X in blender
Answer: Ctrl-Alt-Shift-_
Me: Doesn’t work
Answer: bobbit menu, right pane, third box down
Me: Not there
Answer: Rightclick from x mode and press Y
Me: Not there
so you live in an insane asylum? Powerful, but the least intuitive UI ever.
Came a long way since pre 2.8
Intuition is based on experience i guess. Blender was the first non-CAD modelling software i used, and i quickly learned that the search tool in blender is the primary UI gateway. Made everything really quick and easy to find, and any questions I have had was answered by the great community around Blender.
What people don’t always remember about FOSS is they are just making it for themselves they are users as well as devs. The great thing about FOSS is if someone else happens to use it that’s great and maybe they will contribute to something they use.
Yeah and they get other devs contributing to their project. Nobody’s making Firefox or Blender as a solo project, but band together with some other nerds and this is what you get.
