• BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone
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    Correct me if I’m wrong… But don’t Zionists say that we’re their slaves and after they’re done slaughtering innocent Palestinians they’re going to try to wipe everyone out that isn’t an Israeli?

    I’m stretching a bit with my comment but I’m 90% sure that Israel expects us all to just slave for them.

    Most western countries are on their knees for Israel… Can’t wait to see how they get in front of Xi Jinping and expect him to bow down.

    (Oh… That’s right America will go to war with China to help Israel).

    Fuck Israel

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    I am juat gonna say it too:
    Fuck society
    Fuck humans
    Fuck this Saturday (*depending on timezone)

    Can’t we just fucking live in a sort of harmony? PLEASE.

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    Y’all so brave saying that. Care saying “Fuck Palestine” in these places?

    jk, Free Palestine!

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      Fuck palestine. A miserably failed British colony, created after colonies weren’t cool anymore so they had to call it “Mandate”. The people in palestine need help though, because they are obviously unable to help themselves.

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    Zionism is equivalent to Nazism.

    Zionism at its heart is a form of violent Fascism, as well as a form of Settler-Colonialism that maintains it’s prominence and territorial expansion by commiting genocide.

    Zionism should be met with the same vigorous resistance and removal from society as Nazism.

    Zionism PREDATES Nazism. Modern political Zionism started in 1897, the Nazi movement didn’t begin until the 1920s.

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      And because SO many people can’t seem to wrap their heads around this concept and keep shouting their ignorance at us I feel the need to constantly yell back at them:

      Anti-Zionism is NOT being anti-Semitic or hating Jews or hating the PEOPLE.

      Anti-Nazism is NOT being anti-German or hating Germans or hating the PEOPLE.

      Anti-Fascism is NOT being anti people or races or religions or literally ANYTHING except the politics/philosophy/actions/behaviors/hate/control/abuse that is fascism.

      We are literally ONLY protesting the genocides, the murder of innocent people, the bombing of civilian areas, the abuse and horric conditions, the hate, the racism, the fear mongering, the lies, the gaslighting, the violence. WE ONLY WANT PEACE FFS!!! STOP CALLING US RACIST FOR WANTING CEASEFIRES!!!

      • Cris_Citrus (he/him <3)@piefed.zip
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        Yeah, but I think sometimes people forget that the “fuck israel” has to be derived from “free Palestine” and just get a little carried away feeling comfortable in having someone they’re allowed to meaninglessly hate and vilify as the badguy

        There’s a great quote that you must love the oppressed more than you hate the oppressor, and that framing made a big impact on me. So much of the discussion online about plaestine is centered on Israeli atrocities, moreso than Palestinian tragedy and loss.

        I get why, but the important thing is the liberation of the Palestinian people. Hatred for their oppressor is meant to come from hatred of their oppression.

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          Mossad fucked with EVERYONE’S governments! From USA to Russia. You know, the pedo baby-eater who explicitly mentioned a plan to get rid of the poor.

          And Glishaine Maxwell had Mossad awsociation too. Now look what they are doing to Palestine.

          Hope you understand, that area needs to be fucking walled off, and anyone prevented from going in. Thanks to the religious nutbags, that entire area is a memetic hazard.

          Now I’m not going to say nuke Israel again, but that place needs to be gone one way or another. Idk, deport them to somewhere else, then salt the land and have border guards preventing the place from ever being settled again.

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            The place you’re saying to salt the earth is the stolen land of the Palestinians.

            Which, thats kinda exactly what I mean by loosing sight of liberation for the oppressed. You’re talking about whether to nuke the (stolen) homeland of a suffering group.

            You gotta remember that the point is justice, not retribution. And jutice often should include consequences. But that doesn’t make it the same thing as vindictive persecution.

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              You don’t understand, so long as there’s some bibble bullshit about endtimes happening in Israel, there will always be someone trying to end the world. That’s the specific issue here.

              Of course, it’s someone else’s problem how to solve this ethically 🎵

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      I’m actually becoming deeply convinced that one of the biggest dangers to the Jewish community is Israel itself.

      As things currently stand, they have the power to make people hate Jewish people more than just about anything else in this world.

      Not because I’m conflating being Jewish with being Israeli or vice versa, but because that appears to be the message they want to the world to embrace. That is really synonymous with being Jewish.

      Look at how quickly right wingers run the world are to jump to calling you anti-Semitic if you don’t appreciate something israel does.

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      I’m a simple man.

      I see people being nice, I respect them. I see people hurting others I say fuck ‘em.

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        You know what I mean? It doesn’t have to be harder than that. It used to be how we showed each other what is acceptable and what isn’t. That… doesn’t seem to “take” anymore.

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          You would think a group that suffered the most horrific treatment from the nazis would do the exact opposite, not improve on their playbook

          That “never forget” slogan seems to mean “shoot first so they can’t” lately.

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            They missed the part about “turn the other cheek”. Maybe that’s not in their religion, eh.

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    This is another good example of saying “Fuck (country name)” they’re usually talking about the government of that country, and not necessarily the citizens. For example, Russia can fuck right off, but I’d expect that most Russian citizens are decent people who are merely drowning in propaganda. Lots of people are, all around the world.

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      Yes even US Americans are probably just decent people generally. I know it’s hard to imagine with some of these countries but we shouldn’t forget people aren’t their governments.

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            I don’t think anyone not living in America understands how deeply propaganda is pushed here across media and culture. The ruling class has distorted everything so much it’s hard to have a coherent conversation with most people on real issues. The misinformation and capital class talking points are intensely deep seated.

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              Eh, the rest of the western world aren’t really any better in this regard, as much as they try to pretend that they are

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              I think it’s pretty obvious for us here outside the US too. It is like bad body odour, it is harder to notice when you’re inside it and used to it.

              Not that we are not used to our stench for that matter.

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            No. I’ve had several people admit to me that the hatred is the point.

            Anyine who still supports this regime is supporting them because of the hatred.

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                I judge people based on their choices and actions.

                Some have chosen to embrace the hatred. And so I judge them for it.

                At this point in my life, I’m not interested in attempting to redeem people who have chosen evil.

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              Hate is a multi-billion dollar business in America. The capital class spends obscene amounts of money to keep people hating each other and stoke the culture war. It’s the evolution of the old school union busting on the 1900s.

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        Yeah, Americans can be insufferable but I try to consider that they’re indoctrinated from birth and people be people. Birthplace doesn’t dictate the person

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      I take that approach for almost countries, but I have a hard time with Israel because their polls continue to show 80%+ support for the genocide. That’s a huge portion of the population to be irredeemable.

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      Tbh, Israelis as a whole invite a lot of hate upon themselves by wholeheartedly supporting outright genocide. Public polling there shows a disturbingly large number of even young, secular Israelis advocate for killing everyone in Gaza, including women and children:

      https://zeteo.com/p/its-not-just-netanyahu-a-lot-of-israelis

      https://theconversation.com/in-israel-calls-for-genocide-have-migrated-from-the-margins-to-the-mainstream-250010

      That doesn’t mean every Israeli or every Jewish person is culpable or suspect, ofc. But I think it’s even more justifiable to distrust the country as a whole as it is to distrust the US electorate after re-electing Trump. Netanyahu is corrupt and bloodthirsty, but his policies still enjoy broad support from voters there.

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      I fully mean fuck the state and the people of Israel. May their country be destroyed and the lands returned to the Palestinians. Israelis can go flee to the US or something for all I care.