• FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    I agree.

    They’d also be alive if our two ruling parties didn’t have the same positions on Israel and hiding the Epstein Files.

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      Yeah, Biden had the files too. It’s not like there’s any shortage of Israel worshipping Iran warhawks on the dem side, either.

      Things might have been a little different but I doubt they’d be as different as OP thinks.

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        It’s almost like the two parties work together and hold a monopoly on our political system. A duopoly, if you will.

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        Biden did nothing in reaction to a Coup attempt and scapegoated Garland. Nobody bats an eye at that, it’s insane. I think the federal court seal on Epstein Files is true to an extent but that wasn’t the only thing they could’ve taken Trump down with. They chose to punish nobody important for Jan 6th, emboldening the new confederates.

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          Biden also could have said “fuck the seal” and declassified and published them anyways. Even if they were later retracted and deleted from the DOJ website, the internet would share them around.

          Of course Joe Biden and the wider DNC didn’t want those documents released, because they would implicate big Democrat donors and create mass-disillusionment. They got released now as a way to spite Trump, and perhaps because whatever disarray they incited would be under Trump’s rule… or perhaps because Democrats correctly determined that the USA wasn’t going to riot or enact a mass-strike or do anything “radical” after learning that their entire life has been played by billionaire sex-trafficking child-raping baby-eating pedophiles </3

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            You very well could be right, I’m not American so I’m less intimate with their legal system. My main point was just that there were (and still will be) so many paths to putting the pedo in prison and Dems simply didn’t even try to.

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        Biden had the files too.

        “The Epstein files were not released during the Biden administration (2021–2025) primarily because they were under strict federal court seals related to ongoing criminal investigations and the appeal of Ghislaine Maxwell.”

        Google is your friend if you know how to use it. Stop spreading misinformation online. You are being part of the problem.

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          Biden could have tested the powers the Supreme Court handed him and done so anyway, calling it an official act.

          But since he was utterly spineless and pretended to respect the law as long as the law wasn’t preventing him from selling weapons for genocide, he didn’t.

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          Oh yeah that thing where the state doesn’t prosecute hundreds of criminals because it’s prosecuting one. Yes totally normal.

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          Epstien’s flight logs were publicly released during the Ghislaine Maxwell trial which occured before he ever took office. The FBI raided Little Saint James in 2019. But sure, lets pretend the president had absolutely no idea about it because they didn’t publicly release a folder labeled “The Epstien Files” while he was in office.

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          Lemmy basically exists at this point for idiots to deliberately misunderstand the workings of the government in order to blame the democratic party for illegal shit the republicans do. Every single time republicans do something heinous these chuds come out screaming about why the Dems let this happen and how it’s actually their fault for not stopping the people in absolute power, it’s fucking bananas. 95 percent of lemmy is basically the worst ten percent of reddit, and most prominent commenters seem to use gpt or something else to think their thoughts for them. Lemmy is a fucking joke when it comes to discussing politics and it’s every bit as arbitrarily moderated as reddit.

          • ඞmir@lemmy.ml
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            for idiots

            Amazing way to start your argument

            to deliberately misunderstand the workings of the government

            No, we understand it very clearly; power and/or money rules, and laws are suggestions for politicians

            in order to blame the democratic party for illegal shit the republicans do

            Who’s left to enforce what’s legal? If the entire government is compromised, and constantly approving of illegal shit, what use is there in caring about laws and legality of actions? Power rules, laws are mere suggestions to the Epstein-class

            Every single time republicans do something heinous these chuds come out screaming about why the Dems let this happen and how it’s actually their fault for not stopping the people in absolute power

            They had so many chances to pull exactly the same shit to stop evil and never did in the name of “normality”. They knew that Republicans are neo-nazi fascists and did jack shit to use their temporary power to stop them. If they want to market themselves as the “good guys” and then choose not to stop cartoonish levels of evil how do they expect any remaining support? You’re not blaming the wolf, screaming they’re hungry for chickens, for eating the chickens; you blame the shepherd for not grabbing the shotgun and headshotting the wolves in sight. If Democrats want to claim they’re “not stepping down to the level of illegal actions” while knowing if they don’t then the neo-nazi fascist regime is coming (and now it has already arrived, good job), they’re just as bad. Something something one nazi in a bar = nazi bar

            95 percent of lemmy is basically the worst ten percent of reddit, and most prominent commenters seem to use gpt or something else to think their thoughts for them

            Lmao we’re entering the era of deflecting arguments by claiming it’s written/thought-conceived by an LLM. I wonder if there’s already a name for that fallacy

            Lemmy is a fucking joke when it comes to discussing politics and it’s every bit as arbitrarily moderated as reddit.

            There’s not even a central moderation; go to a different instance (and follow different communities) if you’re so upset by the local moderation.

            By the way I’m not even from the US, I just find it depressing to follow the situation from here in Europe knowing this is likely what’s waiting for us in 10-20 years. Let’s hope our democracy is better than yours

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              You don’t understand or you wouldn’t say stupid shit that proves you don’t understand. And then you just straight admit you’re a foreigner that follows our politics for kicks, you’re literally a propagandist and you probably don’t even know it. But unless you want everything to get worse for everyone everywhere you should probably stop spreading disinformation that elects republicans. Or just admit that’s what you’re doing here.

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                You don’t understand or you wouldn’t say stupid shit that proves you don’t understand.

                Which part of my understanding is wrong?

                And then you just straight admit you’re a foreigner that follows our politics for kicks, you’re literally a propagandist and you probably don’t even know it.

                I never said I follow your politics for kicks, where did I say that?

                you’re literally a propagandist

                I also don’t even talk about this topic myself, unless I see someone like you who seemingly doesn’t understand where the sentinment is coming from. I’d rather spend my time convincing my friends to vote further prog-left in our local/national elections than argue about the Epstein class in the US

                But unless you want everything to get worse for everyone everywhere

                No, I want you to gain understanding of where the opinion is coming from so you can get your head out of your self-righteous ass and talk to people in good faith instead, instead of thinking they’re all propagandists

                that elects republicans

                And the entire point is that it seemingly doesn’t matter, because even with years of full Democrat reign nothing will change, they will not fix the broken “democracy” that the US has, and then the first Republican to take office will immediately illegally undo all those years of progress within a week and plunge straight into a fascist state, and continue their gerrymandering and court-stacking unbothered and unopposed. Why the fuck didn’t Biden stack the court? Why didn’t the years of Democrat trifecta stop gerrymandering and make vote-by-ballot easy and unopposable? It’s hilarious how those simple tasks haven’t happened, which is unthinkable as a European (specifically, Dutch)

                Or just admit that’s what you’re doing here.

                You know jack shit about me, so stop jumping to conclusions

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                  You are literally working for the Epstein class, right now with your rhetoric. Now post another gpt slopspam about how everything Trump is actually the demonrats fault.

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                    You still haven’t told me which part of my understanding is wrong.

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      I still think trump did more than any other president last 20 years. By making it clear for those who doubted the illusion of choice

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        Where does that lead us though? Does knowing for sure, instead of just knowing, justify putting trump in office?

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            Never ending corp greed cause of sabotage by your neighbours is what would happen otherwise. Now we have more corruption but many people finally realise who is the real enemy