Doing one without the other is just going to make the problem worse.
I think you guys may be talking about different problems. Oil being expensive is good in the environmental sense, as it tends to push people and businesses away from using it. The wage gap and cost of living issues are affected by oil prices, but are a separate issue.
This is why shit never gets fixed. Person A says “this is a problem” Person B says “Yea but so is this”. Pretty soon everyone is fighting for each other around which problem to fix instead of just fixing the first problem and going from there.
Sadly it’s not that simple. Fixing the various pop-up symptoms of late stage crapitalism is like seeing an apartment block with a completely corroded water supply system and going around slapping flextape on leaks instead of rooting out the whole thing and replacing it with something that works. We keep going around applying hotfixes, hoping this will make the system work, but at the end of the day all we get is 20x more spent on flextape than it would’ve cost to replace the system, and the whole thing is even more rickety than it was before we began.
Except your way doesn’t work either, when each person tacks on their personal issue (or the one that matters most to them) nothing changes.
We have a flat tire, well we also need to change the oil, well we also need a car wash. This doesn’t fix the issue. The big issue is “yes this car has problems” but the immediate one is “fix the tire”.
Too many cooks in the kitchen is a saying for a reason
To continue your analogy, the building needs to be demolished and rebuild, but there’s still people living inside, and the doors have been welded shut. Hard to blame them for wanting to stick with the flextape.
You’re forgetting that a lot of oil byproducts are absolutely necessary for long term agricultural sustainability. Nitrogen and sulfate fertilisers take natural gas and crude oil processing byproducts to be synthesized, pesticides rely on petroleum, and that’s not even considering the machinery required for production and transport (while electric trucks are a thing, electric agricultural machinery is still experimental at best, not to mention a lot of farmers tend to use 20-40 year old equipment).
Oil prices going up will have a massive knock on effect on agricultural produce amounts, availability, and prices. But hey, at least all those miffed farmers will now have a market, even if it’s making nutrient dense slop which will be the only thing available for average people to buy… You’ll get your daily dose of gray slop and you’ll like it!
Okay, well let’s also talk about fixing the wage gap. Doing one without the other is just going to make the problem worse.
I think you guys may be talking about different problems. Oil being expensive is good in the environmental sense, as it tends to push people and businesses away from using it. The wage gap and cost of living issues are affected by oil prices, but are a separate issue.
This is why shit never gets fixed. Person A says “this is a problem” Person B says “Yea but so is this”. Pretty soon everyone is fighting for each other around which problem to fix instead of just fixing the first problem and going from there.
Sadly it’s not that simple. Fixing the various pop-up symptoms of late stage crapitalism is like seeing an apartment block with a completely corroded water supply system and going around slapping flextape on leaks instead of rooting out the whole thing and replacing it with something that works. We keep going around applying hotfixes, hoping this will make the system work, but at the end of the day all we get is 20x more spent on flextape than it would’ve cost to replace the system, and the whole thing is even more rickety than it was before we began.
Except your way doesn’t work either, when each person tacks on their personal issue (or the one that matters most to them) nothing changes.
We have a flat tire, well we also need to change the oil, well we also need a car wash. This doesn’t fix the issue. The big issue is “yes this car has problems” but the immediate one is “fix the tire”.
Too many cooks in the kitchen is a saying for a reason
To continue your analogy, the building needs to be demolished and rebuild, but there’s still people living inside, and the doors have been welded shut. Hard to blame them for wanting to stick with the flextape.
You’re forgetting that a lot of oil byproducts are absolutely necessary for long term agricultural sustainability. Nitrogen and sulfate fertilisers take natural gas and crude oil processing byproducts to be synthesized, pesticides rely on petroleum, and that’s not even considering the machinery required for production and transport (while electric trucks are a thing, electric agricultural machinery is still experimental at best, not to mention a lot of farmers tend to use 20-40 year old equipment).
Oil prices going up will have a massive knock on effect on agricultural produce amounts, availability, and prices. But hey, at least all those miffed farmers will now have a market, even if it’s making nutrient dense slop which will be the only thing available for average people to buy… You’ll get your daily dose of gray slop and you’ll like it!