Iran democratically elected a socialist leader, Mohammad Mosaddegh, in 1952. The US (and UK) didn’t like that, so they ushered a coup and installed the Shah, a brutal dictator, in 1953. Then in 1979, Iranians had enough of his bullshit and overthrew the government with the Islamic Revolution, voting in Ruhollah Khomeini as the new Ayatollah of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Have we ever once considered that the reason why certain sovereign nations in the world behave the way they do was because sometime in the 20th century, the US interrupted their progress towards socialism. See also Latin and South America.
Maybe the US should just stop interfering with other countries and let the people decide what’s best.
Khomeini also wrote that since Muslims must support a government based on Islamic law, Sharia-based government will always have more popular support in Muslim countries than any government based on elected representatives.[259]
Between June 1981 and March 1982, the theocratic regime carried out the largest political massacre in Iranian history, targeting communists, socialists, social democrats, liberals, monarchists, moderate Islamists, and members of the Baha’i faith as part of the Iranian Cultural Revolution decreed by Khomeini on 14 June 1980 with the intent of “purifying” Iranian society of non-Islamic elements.[250] Between June 1981 and June 1982, Amnesty International documented 2,946 executions, with several thousand more killed in the next two years according to the anti-government guerilla People’s Mujahedin of Iran.[251] More recently, Rastyad Collective has verified the identities of more than 3,400 political dissidents who were executed between June 1981 and March 1982.[252][253] These dissidents were sentenced to death by the Islamic Revolutionary Courts during show trials in more than eighty-five cities across the country on charges of spreading “corruption on Earth” (ifsad-fi-alarz), “espionage”, “terrorism”, or “enmity against Allah” (Moharebeh).[250] Most victims of the 1981 massacre were young activists aged eleven to twenty-four. These activists were either high school students or had recently graduated from universities in Iran and abroad. During the massacre, hundreds of minors were also subjected to arbitrary detention, torture, and summary executions on ideologically motivated charges of ifsad-fi-alarz and moharebeh by the revolutionary courts.[252][250][254] In July 2024, The Special Rapporteur published a landmark UN Report on the 1981 massacre and categorised the atrocity crimes committed in 1981 and 1982 as genocide and crimes against humanity. In this report, the Rapporteur called for the establishment of an independent and international accountability mechanism.[255]
The Clerical class in Iran sucks, yes. They collude with the Bazaar class to maintain power and suppress the Iranian people.
But for Iran to overcome this oppression, this is the people’s fight, not some other country’s.
The US should not interfere internationally, full stop, unless provoked, including its allies. Last time I checked, the US provoked Iran, not the other way around.
America makes money when they destabilize sovereign nations and install their puppets to say “yes” whenever American corporations come to extract (read: steal) their resources.
America does NOT make money when socialist states like Iran and Cuba nationalize their oil industry such that economic commerce can only happen through the government and its people.
This is why America gets involved internationally: it’s to fuel their corporate greed and endlessly subjagate the Global South all for the benefit of the Imperial Core.
The reason Iran has a dictatorship is because America overthrew a democratically elected leader in Iran and installed and a brutal dictator Shah in his place.
it was of the insistence of uk, THE SHAH WAS installed, which led tot he Islamic revolution, REAGAN told iran to keep holding the hostages there til he got elected.
I’m guessing this is a reference to unexploded ordnance in Cambodia, which has killed 20,000 and caused 45,000 amputations since the war ended in 1979.
That war ended 50 years ago, and there is still 700 square miles of land contaminated by unexploded bombs.
At least one child will lose their hand to a US bomb this month in Cambodia, you can bet on it. And next month too.
They had a pretty good reputation up until 1953 when they started meddling with Korea. ever since they have stuck their nose in other peoples business. say Vietnam, Chile, Colombia, Venezuela, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya etc. And if you think well those were all countries that were failing so America tried to help them but they wouldn’t accept the help or something to that extent - congratulations, you are a sucker for decades long American propaganda.
USA has killed way more than any other nation since WWII which they had a hand in causing. Trust me, USA has a horrible reputation as the number one human rights abuser ever.
You have got to be kidding me, or perhaps you are just ignorant to what the US has done.
Let’s just start with economic sanctions. It is estimated that US sanctions have lead to the death of approximately 500,000 lives a year for the last 50 years. That is 25 million people just because we don’t like other countries policies.
Speaking of Genocide the US has an ongoing genocide and has participated is some of the worst genocides in history. Take WWII. The Nazi looked up to the US and Hitler modeled his destruction of Jews on the Native American Genocide
Wealthy US industrialists like Ford bankrolled the Nazi Empire. When Hitler tried to expel the Jews these same wealthy Americans lobbied against taking them in and stroked anti-Jewish sentiment throughout the world to make sure no one would take them in.
This lead to the final solution where American companies like IBM developed a census system (those numbers tattooed on the Jews arms) and helped figure out the logistics of sending the Jews to their death so the trains would not backup into the ghettos.
Besides the ongoing genocide of Native Americans with US Indian boarding schools open to this day, we also have the War on Drugs which is yet another hamfisted genocide against minorities by the white nationalists.
Millions of families have been destroyed and the US accounts for 20% of the world’s prison population but only 5% of the actual world population. These along with gun violence having killed a million people in the last twenty years paints a very dark picture of the US.
Yes, the US also exceed at killing others countries citizens as well. The US is responsible for countless suffering being the number one producer of arms in the world. We are responsible for the two greatest murders of civilian life in a single day with the fire bombings of Tokyo and the dropping of the atomic bombs.
US technology is also particularly destructive with things like poisoning every human being alive with forever chemicals and plastics. While you can definitely say the countries that used this technology are also culpable, there is no denying the US invented and proliferated it.
Take lead poisoning from fuel for instance. It was estimate that even to this day 5 million people die every year due to lung damage. Added all up it is in the hundreds of millions dead. Of course the greatest loss of life (billions) will happen with global warming something the US petro scientist knew about in the 1950s.
Back to war mongering the US has toppled around 70 countries and has been directly responsible for the killing of tens of millions of civilians through these terrorist acts. Just their campaign against communism killed millions of leftist
I am found of saying it would take more than my lifetime just to detail all the atrocities and people destroyed by the US.
Usually yes, but have you seen how smart Iran is with their propaganda? The know we all (Middle East, Europe, Africa and the Americas) hate the politicians and oligarchs of the US. And they use this weapon quite successfully. CIA shitting their pants right now.
I hate it when bad actors suddenly start doing very good things.
America has always been the bad actor
Yes but the enemy of my enemy isn’t automatically a super chill dude or anything
Iran democratically elected a socialist leader, Mohammad Mosaddegh, in 1952. The US (and UK) didn’t like that, so they ushered a coup and installed the Shah, a brutal dictator, in 1953. Then in 1979, Iranians had enough of his bullshit and overthrew the government with the Islamic Revolution, voting in Ruhollah Khomeini as the new Ayatollah of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Have we ever once considered that the reason why certain sovereign nations in the world behave the way they do was because sometime in the 20th century, the US interrupted their progress towards socialism. See also Latin and South America.
Maybe the US should just stop interfering with other countries and let the people decide what’s best.
How free and fair was that vote?
Idk, how free and fair are American elections?
I’d say freer than Iranian ones, then and now.
wp:Ruhollah Khomeini#Democracy
As for leftists who support the ISLAMIC Republic:
wp:Iranian Revolution#The 1981–1982 massacre
(my bold)
The Clerical class in Iran sucks, yes. They collude with the Bazaar class to maintain power and suppress the Iranian people.
But for Iran to overcome this oppression, this is the people’s fight, not some other country’s.
The US should not interfere internationally, full stop, unless provoked, including its allies. Last time I checked, the US provoked Iran, not the other way around.
Agreed.
Yeah but then america would make money
America makes money when they destabilize sovereign nations and install their puppets to say “yes” whenever American corporations come to extract (read: steal) their resources.
America does NOT make money when socialist states like Iran and Cuba nationalize their oil industry such that economic commerce can only happen through the government and its people.
This is why America gets involved internationally: it’s to fuel their corporate greed and endlessly subjagate the Global South all for the benefit of the Imperial Core.
Meant to say Wouldnt, but still works
also harder to control if the country is a democratic one too.
The reason Iran has a dictatorship is because America overthrew a democratically elected leader in Iran and installed and a brutal dictator Shah in his place.
Still Iran has never initiated a war.
Where’s Yemen and Lebanon?
it was of the insistence of uk, THE SHAH WAS installed, which led tot he Islamic revolution, REAGAN told iran to keep holding the hostages there til he got elected.
We hit Cambodia again from 80-95!?
I’m guessing this is a reference to unexploded ordnance in Cambodia, which has killed 20,000 and caused 45,000 amputations since the war ended in 1979.
That war ended 50 years ago, and there is still 700 square miles of land contaminated by unexploded bombs.
At least one child will lose their hand to a US bomb this month in Cambodia, you can bet on it. And next month too.
america/UK is the reason why Iran turned out this way.
Not really. USA actually had a pretty good reputation after WW2 and before wars in ME. For quite some time, US actually looked like a good country.
They had a pretty good reputation up until 1953 when they started meddling with Korea. ever since they have stuck their nose in other peoples business. say Vietnam, Chile, Colombia, Venezuela, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya etc. And if you think well those were all countries that were failing so America tried to help them but they wouldn’t accept the help or something to that extent - congratulations, you are a sucker for decades long American propaganda.
it’s almost like taking in all those Nazi’s after WW2 was a bad idea…
Bruh, America was fucked from the start. Let’s not forget what they did to Native Americans. The Nazi’s weren’t being taken in, they were coming home.
Valid.
It looked like a good country but has been doing the same thing. CIA propaganda isn’t working anymore like it used to.
USA has been at war 240 out of 250 years of its existence.
Such good guys they are
I’m seeing a pattern in that list
Explain, please.
but is that reputation based on geniunely good things, or spin and propaganda?
USA has killed way more than any other nation since WWII which they had a hand in causing. Trust me, USA has a horrible reputation as the number one human rights abuser ever.
I dunno, there’s been some pretty fucking bad genocides about the place over the years, as well as shit like Stalin and Mao.
When it comes to killing other countries people, they might be.
You have got to be kidding me, or perhaps you are just ignorant to what the US has done.
Let’s just start with economic sanctions. It is estimated that US sanctions have lead to the death of approximately 500,000 lives a year for the last 50 years. That is 25 million people just because we don’t like other countries policies.
Speaking of Genocide the US has an ongoing genocide and has participated is some of the worst genocides in history. Take WWII. The Nazi looked up to the US and Hitler modeled his destruction of Jews on the Native American Genocide
Wealthy US industrialists like Ford bankrolled the Nazi Empire. When Hitler tried to expel the Jews these same wealthy Americans lobbied against taking them in and stroked anti-Jewish sentiment throughout the world to make sure no one would take them in.
This lead to the final solution where American companies like IBM developed a census system (those numbers tattooed on the Jews arms) and helped figure out the logistics of sending the Jews to their death so the trains would not backup into the ghettos.
Besides the ongoing genocide of Native Americans with US Indian boarding schools open to this day, we also have the War on Drugs which is yet another hamfisted genocide against minorities by the white nationalists.
Millions of families have been destroyed and the US accounts for 20% of the world’s prison population but only 5% of the actual world population. These along with gun violence having killed a million people in the last twenty years paints a very dark picture of the US.
Yes, the US also exceed at killing others countries citizens as well. The US is responsible for countless suffering being the number one producer of arms in the world. We are responsible for the two greatest murders of civilian life in a single day with the fire bombings of Tokyo and the dropping of the atomic bombs.
US technology is also particularly destructive with things like poisoning every human being alive with forever chemicals and plastics. While you can definitely say the countries that used this technology are also culpable, there is no denying the US invented and proliferated it.
Take lead poisoning from fuel for instance. It was estimate that even to this day 5 million people die every year due to lung damage. Added all up it is in the hundreds of millions dead. Of course the greatest loss of life (billions) will happen with global warming something the US petro scientist knew about in the 1950s.
Back to war mongering the US has toppled around 70 countries and has been directly responsible for the killing of tens of millions of civilians through these terrorist acts. Just their campaign against communism killed millions of leftist
I am found of saying it would take more than my lifetime just to detail all the atrocities and people destroyed by the US.
Few people were pissed we needlessly used nuclear bombs on civilians instead of military bases, no?
unitentionally
Usually yes, but have you seen how smart Iran is with their propaganda? The know we all (Middle East, Europe, Africa and the Americas) hate the politicians and oligarchs of the US. And they use this weapon quite successfully. CIA shitting their pants right now.