The thing I quoted was your first reply to me. You realize that right? And then I said that the racism can be implied, because it is. Propagating carnist ideology, which has its roots in racism, is propagating racism. Its why the right chuds love it so much. If you refuse to see that its fine. But denigrating me and contorting words is meaningless. So go for it if you need to feel like The Big Man.
You said it was propaganda because one had big tits and the other was unkempt.
Propaganda. Vegans are weak, unkempt people while carnis have massive voluptuous titties.
I flipped those attributes and asked if would still be propaganda. You then bring up racism for the first time as if it was the only thing you were ever talking about.
The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause. Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause.
“wartime propaganda.”
A congregation of cardinals, established in 1622, charged with the management of missions.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition
By the definition of propaganda it would not be. There is no systemic propagation of veganism. But there is one of carnism, especially with this Regime. Remember RFK Jr’s upside down food pyramid saying we need way more meat? Yeah bud. Thats systemic propagation.
Edit: I am literally right. You all can love dog piling all you fucken want and feed me the downvotes. This is propaganda.
Absolutely there is a systemic propagation of veganism. All sorts of brands promote veganism and their products being vegan.
But that doesn’t realy matter, we aren’t talking about a systemic pattern, but a single comic. By that definition a single comic can’t be identified as propaganda at all.
No, not at all. If this were passed around in a vegan circle or a vegan event and the roles were reversed as you asked it would be. Butnsince it is here, pro-carni, and the government is pushing that stance this is what automcatically qualifies it as propaganda. Like if we saw a pro Iran war post here made by hand by a random user.
But your definition doesn’t describe individual instances of anything, only systemic patterns. How can you be sure an individual instance is intended as part of the pattern?
It’s the same kind of problem as pinning down an individual storm as being a result of climate change. You can’t realy, because individual data points aren’t themselves a pattern. You can say this point cloud makes a pattern. But you can’t be sure any individual point is part of the pattern or the background noise.
Now you are too deep in your hypothetics because Felix has a pattern of posting shit like this. I don’t need a what-if. The pattern exists in the post history. This is absolutely ridiculous at this point. You need to be so right you have switched to your hypothetical instead of focusing on the real thing happening right now.
I never proposed a hypothetical or what-if. I only directly referenced your definition. Then explained how systematic patterns work among random noise, and why you can’t apply them to an individual instance. I did include a real world example. But that’s not a what-if or hypothetical, that’s real and actual. and also only an example, not really meaningful to the point itself.
Edit: I feel like I’m assuming too broad of a knowledge base for you. If you don’t understand something please just ask instead of dismissing. I’d be happy to explain.
Thats not the question here. The question was if it were reversed would it be propaganda. It could be, but the context of this being pro meat is what automatically makes it propaganda since that is what the government is currently pushing.
Edit: and either way, that wouldn’t change the fact that this as depicted is propaganda.
I’m off the opinion that basically everything is propaganda. people are always telling you something with the goal of changing or affirming some belief. so while you’re probably right that this is a propaganda piece, reversing the roles wouldn’t change that fact.
That’s you quoting me.
Now I’m quoting you, quoting me.
It’s literally my first reply to your original comment. That’s why you called it my opening.
The thing I quoted was your first reply to me. You realize that right? And then I said that the racism can be implied, because it is. Propagating carnist ideology, which has its roots in racism, is propagating racism. Its why the right chuds love it so much. If you refuse to see that its fine. But denigrating me and contorting words is meaningless. So go for it if you need to feel like The Big Man.
That’s what I said.
Which as nothing to do with my question at all.
You said it was propaganda because one had big tits and the other was unkempt.
I flipped those attributes and asked if would still be propaganda. You then bring up racism for the first time as if it was the only thing you were ever talking about.
propaganda /prŏp″ə-găn′də/
noun
The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause. Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause.
“wartime propaganda.”
A congregation of cardinals, established in 1622, charged with the management of missions.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition
By the definition of propaganda it would not be. There is no systemic propagation of veganism. But there is one of carnism, especially with this Regime. Remember RFK Jr’s upside down food pyramid saying we need way more meat? Yeah bud. Thats systemic propagation.
Edit: I am literally right. You all can love dog piling all you fucken want and feed me the downvotes. This is propaganda.
Absolutely there is a systemic propagation of veganism. All sorts of brands promote veganism and their products being vegan.
But that doesn’t realy matter, we aren’t talking about a systemic pattern, but a single comic. By that definition a single comic can’t be identified as propaganda at all.
No, not at all. If this were passed around in a vegan circle or a vegan event and the roles were reversed as you asked it would be. Butnsince it is here, pro-carni, and the government is pushing that stance this is what automcatically qualifies it as propaganda. Like if we saw a pro Iran war post here made by hand by a random user.
But your definition doesn’t describe individual instances of anything, only systemic patterns. How can you be sure an individual instance is intended as part of the pattern?
It’s the same kind of problem as pinning down an individual storm as being a result of climate change. You can’t realy, because individual data points aren’t themselves a pattern. You can say this point cloud makes a pattern. But you can’t be sure any individual point is part of the pattern or the background noise.
Now you are too deep in your hypothetics because Felix has a pattern of posting shit like this. I don’t need a what-if. The pattern exists in the post history. This is absolutely ridiculous at this point. You need to be so right you have switched to your hypothetical instead of focusing on the real thing happening right now.
I never proposed a hypothetical or what-if. I only directly referenced your definition. Then explained how systematic patterns work among random noise, and why you can’t apply them to an individual instance. I did include a real world example. But that’s not a what-if or hypothetical, that’s real and actual. and also only an example, not really meaningful to the point itself.
Edit: I feel like I’m assuming too broad of a knowledge base for you. If you don’t understand something please just ask instead of dismissing. I’d be happy to explain.
there is no requirement that propaganda upholds the status quo. revolutionary propaganda is common
Thats not the question here. The question was if it were reversed would it be propaganda. It could be, but the context of this being pro meat is what automatically makes it propaganda since that is what the government is currently pushing.
Edit: and either way, that wouldn’t change the fact that this as depicted is propaganda.
I’m off the opinion that basically everything is propaganda. people are always telling you something with the goal of changing or affirming some belief. so while you’re probably right that this is a propaganda piece, reversing the roles wouldn’t change that fact.
You’re not wrong, but the meat industry’s propaganda is not the type we should be spreading.