• Pip@feddit.org
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    Wow, all that super stable, super reliable base load energy is just mindblowing!! Let’s build more nuclear power plants!

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      Let’s build more nuclear power plants!

      If we had done that early on we wouldn’t have global warming and there wouldn’t be a cool water shortage.

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        but that’s not true. Electricity only accounts for about 18% of emissons, its non renewable, you’d have a waste pile the size of a mountain, would have run out of fuel by now and you’d need to start decommissioning most of them and rebuilding them

        There’s a persist myth that some technology can just magic a fix here, nothing short of vastly reduced energy consumption, and lifestyle changes can work, 10000 aging nuclear reactors that need replacing ain’t going to cut it.

        an example ?

        we’d get a 30% reduction in emissions if the richest 10% loved like the average European, not enough but an excellent start

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          Electricity only accounts for about 18% of emissons

          You have to switch all processes to electricity or hydrogen like steel making or fertilizer.

          Best results come from not abusing the third world and letting them have a future that allows them to only have two children.

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            You have to switch all processes to electricity or hydrogen like steel making or fertilizer.

            Doesn’t turn Uranium into a regrowing resource.

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              Others have mentioned breeder reactors. There is also Thorium. But it is only necessary to use the energy until renewables take over. The last 70 years and the next 30 would have been enough to prevent global warming.

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                The last 70 years and the next 30 would have been enough to prevent global warming.

                Suggesting that this would only be possible by going nuclear has absolutely zero basis in reality. Spinning magnets to generate electricity is a known way generate electricity since way before the first nuclear reactor was ever built. Hydropower and wind turbines were invented during the industrial revolution.

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                  What would you have done in the 1960ies and 1970ies to end the usage of fossil fuels?

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            Fissile resources would have been depleted a long time ago if everyone would have went with nuclear. Don’t be so daft.

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              No they wouldn’t, plus the drive to nuclear would have pushed us to thorium and breeder reactors far sooner, using those we could power the Earth for billions of years, they can even use nuclear waste as fuel, don’t be daft and actually educate yourself instead of carrying water for Big Oil.

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              Accounting for breeder reactors your answer is only off by about 4 billion years.

              It was a good guess though.

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        It’s more relevant what we should/can do now than what we should’ve done years ago, no?

        I mean, obviously learn from history and not make the same mistakes, but it’s also not necessarily the case that whatever would’ve been the solution back then, still is today.

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          If the same people are still in power and don’t show acceptance of their mistakes or a willingness to correct them then it is relevant. There are solutions but it should be clear that they won’t implement them.

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      “Look at all that renewable green solar generation! Sure doesn’t work so well when it’s buried under a mudslide lol”

      That’s what you sound like

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        The thing is that this is a really desperate measure. The danube is one of Europes biggest rivers. That nuclear power plant was build with water inlets. That plant has been there for ages as every nuclear plant in Europe is old as fuck. That rock has been there also a long time. Having to blast it to help a little bit in order to save the reactor producing so much energy that the other plants in the country can’t take over, is desperate as fuck

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          Yeah, they’re responding to a (not-so-) natural disaster. Of course infrastructure built half a century ago under wildly different conditions is at risk.

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        Even if solar panels get buried under a mudslide, you can just build new solar panels very quickly. If that would happen to a nuclear plant, you would need to wait 10+years for a new one.

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        Yeah, right. Those totally predictable mud slides that happen every summer and are expected to increase in frequency and duration with climate change… 🤣

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      if you looked at what is going on, you would see that bulk of the missing energy in hungarian grid is supplied from czech and slovak grids, where half or so energy is supplied from nuclear powerplants that don’t have such problems https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/CZ/72h/hourly

      not to mention the french, who put bunch of their reactors near shore and won’t ever have problems with cooling, and so export 10-15GW every day