If you buy a home in which an HOA is already established, then yes, it’s required. And good luck finding a neighborhood where one isn’t already established. If you get a small enough town or cheap enough neighborhood, maybe.
The really shit part about HOAs is that most of the US NEEDS them. Most of the US has little to no zoning laws, and most of the suburbs are in unincorporated areas outside of the cities.
This means that without an HOA, there’s nothing stopping someone from buying the house next door and turning it into a business, methadone clinic, a literal salvage yard, crawfish farm, or gator zoo.
there’s nothing stopping someone from buying the house next door and turning it into a business, methadone clinic, a literal salvage yard, crawfish farm, or gator zoo.
You’re thinking of zoning laws, those are different.
HOA’s are concerned with what color your walls are, if you have trees of a certain size and shape, and aesthetics as well as minor upgrades and expansions to your home like fucking window shades and gazebos.
And I will also say the zoning laws are ALSO fascist and killing our sense of community. If you think without strict zoning laws your neighbors are going to open a fucking ZOO you haven’t left the country once. In many other countries, neighborhoods have markets, people walk around, they sell art or food from their porches, they talk to each other, they share their resources through private stalls, vendors and other small-scale entrepreneurial ventures. They don’t abuse their freedoms because they don’t want to be hated by their neighbors. Because they have COMMUNITY.
But I will give you this one small point: in the US our car-oriented culture makes it really, really hard to have any kind of residential space that doesn’t turn into a fucking parking lot overnight without regulations. This is because, again, we don’t have markets and jobs and entertainment in walking distance of most homes so you’re forced to drive everywhere.
So, you know nothing about zoning laws nor HOAs, but you still have very strong opinions on them…
And at the same time you have these incredibly naive beliefs about your fellow humans. Like somehow these institutions and systems of rules you despise sprung into existence not because of, but in spite of, these fellow humans you hold in such high esteem.
Like I told the other guy, there are plenty of places you can go to live without much in the way of law or other rules, you go on and enjoy them to your heart’s content, just don’t come crying to the rest of us when you realize what a hellish existence it is to live without laws or rules.
Just admit you’re scared of foreigners playing music you’re not comfortable with across the street and I’m cool.
I am pretty much done with people like you who are so bloody sensitive and scared of people they don’t like doing things they don’t want to see that they make it everyone’s problem, how about YOU go live in some backwoods rural shitwater place so you can fire shotguns at anyone who drives past your mailbox too slowly.
Go scream into the void about your rights, I’ve blocked you.
The bank:
“Awe, that’s cute!”
and the HOA.
Is it a requirement in the US to join the HOA?
If you buy a home in which an HOA is already established, then yes, it’s required. And good luck finding a neighborhood where one isn’t already established. If you get a small enough town or cheap enough neighborhood, maybe.
It’s funny that the ‘right to work’ exists to dismantle unions, but somehow no-one has thought of a ‘right to live’ to combat HOAs.
The really shit part about HOAs is that most of the US NEEDS them. Most of the US has little to no zoning laws, and most of the suburbs are in unincorporated areas outside of the cities. This means that without an HOA, there’s nothing stopping someone from buying the house next door and turning it into a business, methadone clinic, a literal salvage yard, crawfish farm, or gator zoo.
Why exactly?
You’re thinking of zoning laws, those are different.
HOA’s are concerned with what color your walls are, if you have trees of a certain size and shape, and aesthetics as well as minor upgrades and expansions to your home like fucking window shades and gazebos.
And I will also say the zoning laws are ALSO fascist and killing our sense of community. If you think without strict zoning laws your neighbors are going to open a fucking ZOO you haven’t left the country once. In many other countries, neighborhoods have markets, people walk around, they sell art or food from their porches, they talk to each other, they share their resources through private stalls, vendors and other small-scale entrepreneurial ventures. They don’t abuse their freedoms because they don’t want to be hated by their neighbors. Because they have COMMUNITY.
But I will give you this one small point: in the US our car-oriented culture makes it really, really hard to have any kind of residential space that doesn’t turn into a fucking parking lot overnight without regulations. This is because, again, we don’t have markets and jobs and entertainment in walking distance of most homes so you’re forced to drive everywhere.
So, you know nothing about zoning laws nor HOAs, but you still have very strong opinions on them…
And at the same time you have these incredibly naive beliefs about your fellow humans. Like somehow these institutions and systems of rules you despise sprung into existence not because of, but in spite of, these fellow humans you hold in such high esteem.
Like I told the other guy, there are plenty of places you can go to live without much in the way of law or other rules, you go on and enjoy them to your heart’s content, just don’t come crying to the rest of us when you realize what a hellish existence it is to live without laws or rules.
Just admit you’re scared of foreigners playing music you’re not comfortable with across the street and I’m cool.
I am pretty much done with people like you who are so bloody sensitive and scared of people they don’t like doing things they don’t want to see that they make it everyone’s problem, how about YOU go live in some backwoods rural shitwater place so you can fire shotguns at anyone who drives past your mailbox too slowly.
Go scream into the void about your rights, I’ve blocked you.