Try to kill them

Why did you create a new account? The old one was tagged too much?

As I said, they exist, they just have no impact.

A slippery slope is a had argument, but my point here was that we are visibly on the slope. We see more and more people tolerate AIs, including shit like slopcoding and slopart and the like. You can even see it on lemmy, which is probably one of the most AI-hostile places you’ll find. It’s more like starting to have heart problems after eating chips everyday, and thinking “heh, it’ll be fine, I’m not going to have a heart attack”. The opposite of the slippery slope, assuming that everything will be fine no matter what, is not more logical.

And good for you, but you’re a tiny minority. Your point of view is not shared by most AI users, even on lemmy.

Yeah, well you do you. It doesn’t take a long time looking at how the world is evolving to have a view of what’s coming.

I’m saying that “no one” runs a local, green-powered model, like yeah a handful of people probably do but they have no impact at all.

And when you start with the mentality of the “it’s there so why not use it”, you are much more prone to let more happen. If when someone gets murdered, everyone reacts by just mourning and not trying to find out who did it, and to prevent further murders, things won’t get better.

AIs need to be fought with the strongest force or they’ll win. That’s why you already see a split between “no AI here” places, and “oh yeah I’m just using AIs for this and this and that, but reasonably, and I also tried generating images but just for fun, and I made a slopsoftware just to be quicker, and I’m using it more because it frees my time, etc”.

It’s a slippery slope argument, you might say, but we’re seeing it happen. People slowly accept AIs, just like they slowly accept capitalism, just like they accept fascism, and just like they accept all those brain-killing things that are hammered into their heads by everyone around. The only way to resist is to unequivocally reject it, not tolerate exceptions, and once the problem is solved, once AIs are green and powered by the wind, we can have fun running our local models and whatnot.

TLDR: I get your point, but I think it’s a position that is very vulnerable to being corrupted, and the state of the world, including FOSS software and the like, seem to support my point of view.

If the model is pretrained, then you are just outsourcing the main costs. Running the model isn’t the most expensive part.

And let’s face it, no one does what you described, and the ones that do are not the ones going around defending the other ways to use AIs.

Is your project worth destroying the world? Or is it that as a dad with a full time job, you consider that you’ll die before seeing the consequences that will torture and kill your kids, and so it’s not your concern?

Everywhere it’s just fuck AI because it’s the modern plague, so it’s a pretty good sign that you’re struggling to find people who like AI here.

You ok buddy?

If you feel so violently threatened by some comments, there’s definitely something wrong about your situation. Being bothered is one thing, having a mental breakdown about it is another.

No, just misogynistic craps :)

Ah yes, when far right extremists complain about people not wanting to listen to them.

Fitting OP’s account as usual.

Wow, I check quickly your account and randomly fall upon a lot of shit.

Go back to facebook, seriously, we don’t need people coming here to spread the crap of those shitholes here. Go be a bigot somewhere else.

Probably because they’re your typical brainwashed far-right extremist that just built their “personality” around hating on everything that is more or less related to the imaginary concept of being “woke”.

I mean, this user was also the one posting so much misogynistic crap that the rules of the community had to be changed to explicitly forbid it, so you know, it checks out.

And it’s an argument that people actually use, whether this comic is satire or not. I’ve even seen a bunch of people using it on lemmy.

Ah yes, breeding sentient creatures to murder thousands and thousands of generations, is better than killing one generation. Is anyone actually moronic enough to get convinced by this argument?

Also, that’s assuming that if everyone stopped eating meat all at once (huh) then we would decide to kill the cows rather than to let them live. So humanity as a whole suddenly grew a conscience, and yet they go murder hobo on the cows for no valid reason.

The funny thing about anti-vegans is that you don’t need to ever ask if they’re anti-vegan, they’ll slap you in the face with fallacies that make Trump look smart.

It’s not contradictory as I was talking through my perspective, and not through the perspective of a fascist government.

And it’s not just a matter of trust, but of privacy. Even if you fully trust a friend, it doesn’t mean that it’s fine for them to be watching you at all times.

Cameras don’t prevent crime. They don’t prevent accidents. They’re at most used to find afterwards what happened.

By the time a cop would decide to bother and check the cameras, and find you in the footage, and trace your steps through the various cameras, you would have been back on your own already.

The ideas that cameras are a matter of security for the people is propaganda. They are here to destroy privacy and allow the elimination of opponents and dissidents, they don’t really care about crime. Doesn’t mean that cops would never use them for other purposes, but they definitely don’t care as much as you think. And of course, caring isn’t the same thing as being able to do anything in a reasonable time.

If it does, what’s the point of using meat at all?

A picture with a lot of elements

Yeah I definitely don’t want to know more about your various opinions on sociopolitical subjects.

For the nintendo switch for example, it makes it hackable or not.

For other consoles where it matters less, it can be to get information about hardware inside and such, as consoles can sometimes change internal components without changing the name of the console, and the serial number would be a way to determine it I guess.

Edit: what the other comment said better, basically

This doesn’t make sense because it’s a stupid, common anti-vegan argument

“We need to keep on killing generations of cows, or else we’ll have to kill the current generation of cows”

Not only are the assumptions complete crap, the logic is even more moronic.

I mean, that’s what you would expect from anti-vegans.