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  • You’re not wrong! I think ROI would be the business side, while value is the consumer side.

    In another response, someone told about a store that raised price on inexpensive mice, and they sold much more than when the price was lower.

    My partner and I tried a new restaurant a couple days ago. He had fajitas, which was only something like $12. Normally, fajitas are more like $20. It was pretty good, not great, but something he’d eat again.

    The cost was lower so even though the benefit (food quality) wasn’t as high as some places, the value was equal to what he gets at many other places.

    But clearly value isn’t all, because next time he wants fajitas, he might decide he wants really good fajitas and go spend more. Or he might decide the cheaper ones are good enough to fill the craving and go there.

    Anyway, perception is key here, and no one person can decide that for anyone else!


  • Thinking through how “free” things fit into the equation is actually one of the things that cemented it for me. Your example about giving tech support is so familiar, and a great example of how people don’t value free things.

    Well, you can’t divide by 0; so if cost is nothing, then there’s no value.

    I’ve read the book Influence by Robert Cialdini a few times because it’s a fascinating take on what persuades people at a subconscious level. Your story about mice is spot on with some principles he shares.

    I think the example in the book was about a person who sold jewelry at fairs. I’m going to make up details because I don’t remember them perfectly, but it’s close: Her $10 turquoise jewelry wasn’t selling, so she told one of her workers to reduce it by 20%. There was a miscommunication and instead the price was raised to $20, and she sold out that day.

    People saw it as more valuable because of the higher cost.

    Humans are unfortunately easy to manipulate.




  • If there were an equivalent to reddit gold on Lemmy, I’d give it to you. This is such a great overview and explains what I wish I had words for a decade ago when I had a conversation with a leftist friend of mine who was in her 60s, and she posed a question along the lines of, “Why can’t I have white pride?”

    It was completely with good intention and not with an ounce of white supremacy. I realized it came from a place of wanting an identity or culture, to feel like she came from something. She saw others get to have a community around their ancestry and longed for something like it.

    White supremacists have ruined any chance there could have been to find healthy pride in a white identity, and American history is completely mired in that. So many white people feel this loss or lack, and try to fill it with anything they can cling to. 1/32 Native, half Irish, 1/4 German; whatever, just to feel like there’s some history that ties you to who you are.

    But you already said this more eloquently than I!



  • I think that’s why people are complaining about the division sign.

    It’s been decades since I took a math class so I am definitely not the right person to explain things, but I am using technology to confirm my understanding of the various notations:

    So yeah, if you put 6 over a denominator of 2(1+2), the answer is different (1) because the equation is different. But if you write it out literally, it would be 6 over 2 times (1+2).

    What you wrote swapped the denominator to make it 2(1+2)÷6, which will always be 1.










  • Oh jeez, your comment reminded me of something.

    My boyfriend used to tell the following joke: “Have you heard about the Mexican magician? He counted from uno to dos, then disappeared without a tres (trace).”

    It definitely has a “had me in the first half” racist vibe, while not actually being problematic. Except one time he told it to someone who turned out to actually be an idiot racist. He was too stupid to understand the language pun, but heard “Mexican” in a joke and took it as an opening to tell some truly racist “jokes.”

    I’ll sometimes tell the joke still by modifying it to “Spanish-speaking magician,” but I am very intentional about my audience after that experience.



  • My partner loves it; I have not been willing to change my habits to use it.

    One thing that I appreciate about them as a business is that if you don’t use it for a month, they don’t charge you. The subscription stays active, but doesn’t cost you anything until you start using it again. Makes it a low-risk subscription to get! (Please confirm they still do this, but it is how it worked when he signed up!)