Thank you for the smile this comment brought to my face

…ok, but what is the post getting at?

Like what conspiracy is this supporting?

That they are more easily faked on water?

you’re welcome

hope you are OK, random internet person

Peace and love

…or given cold showers in their closets

Interesting thought experiment!

How much compute you got?
Does it have to be a a full song? A snippet? We would also have to determine a “Turing test” style evaluation framework, and it had better be fast too - it cant be you and a pair of headphones determining success :)

Anyway… So, with LOTS of compute, I suspect you could get a snippet or moment that resembles a song/voice, in relatively short time-frames, but this is only because true randomness is hard and we teach computers based on the past So patterns (snippets of voice or song), based on what the computers had previously learned from likely would emerge “quickly” - something like crypto mining, so applying large volumes of compute for extended periods of time

Now, in the spirit of what you are asking, the “infinite monkeys on infinite typewrites produce Shakespeare” or in this case, a song…

So, how long to produce a song/voice in a “truly random” scenario where an infinite number of thinking machines, never having heard a song or human voice … The answer is Undetermined. Infinity is weird

If we give it infinite time, then an infinite number of songs and plays will eventually be produced, but since we dont have infinite time, the most likely outcome (in my opinion) is that it would never produce anything we would all agree is a voice or song in any sort of human scale timeframes

Infinity is really really really big - did you know there are “bigger” and “smaller” infinities? This is the example that I found fascinating:

There are infinite whole numbers 1, 2, 3…Infinity within that set, there are infinite odd numbers, 1,3,5…inifnity also within that same set there are infinite even numbers, 2,4,6…infinity

Although all are infinite, the first infinity contains both the others, therefore is larger Mind blown when I first thought about that

Great question and fun to think about

yes, re-mastered. It was on sale for like $3

I had heard about it back in the day, but never played

very impressed with linux gaming now

my last try was 10+ years ago

games are literally running better on my (getting) tired desktop, and I play Grim Fandango on a Ryzen 3 laptop with 4Gb Ram which could barely boot windoze

Ubuntu is super easy

correct - assuming random sample and current societal stability

What country are you saying is hopeless? The US? I agree, I think all that remains is how violent the fall will be.

…also, am not American fortunately

…also tho, it would appear to me, that at some point NOT owning a gun is the bigger risk

once civil society and the rule of law diminishes to a certain violent bottom, arming oneself not only makes sense, but becomes a survival imperative

I know that if I lived in the US, I would be armed and proficient in its use

yes

Vacuous? Hardly, see atheism

yes!

…also no gods matter

Them too!.. looks around…

…there is older

much older

I believe in all the Gods

msg - makes shit good