English is similar: shoebox, snowflake, raincoat

It is good they acknowledge it and correct it. At some point apologies are empty if it is repeated.

But my point on apple and google is like the school teacher with a good student and a “bad” kid. Expectations are set higher for the good kid, because “they should know better.” And bad kid often has things slide because teachers view is “they’re a bad kid, it’s what we expected”

Google has a track record of being shitty, so nobody cares anymore.

I think the hate is because they tout privacy and then fail in some areas, but a large part of the fan base is evangelical about apple even with the let downs. While Google gets forgiven because it is like “hell yeah we will sell your data.”

There is the issue about Siri sending info also even if you opted out.

I think its probably minor compared to Google’s harvesting on android, and probably kept within Apples garden, but with a Corporation ( and now Fascist regime ) they will eventually choose profit or government compliance over privacy.

I’ve moved to GrapheneOS to avoid google, but Google seems too be closing off OpenSource parts of Android, so that Project will probably come to end at some point.

I have to search through two years of podcasts LOL. The issue is the setting misinforms the user. On: we collect your dara, off: we don’t. But they still were. Had they had no toggle it would fall under TOS. But giving a person a facade of choice is dubious

This should be it , and somewhere I have a podcast feed about all the details

The iPhone Analytics setting makes an explicit promise. Turn it off, and Apple says that it will “disable the sharing of Device Analytics altogether.” However,

https://gizmodo.com/apple-iphone-analytics-tracking-even-when-off-app-store-1849757558

Totally unrelated to the E2E, I will have to search for it. It was a year or two ago. Apple claimed turning off the data collection kept your use private to you, but was just a lie, they collected all your data anyway.

And yes, its an IPhone setting not an android setting. Google is another issue.

Its the don’t track privacy type settings where you opt out, research found it was a toggle button that did nothing.

They only tout privacy to gain market, they would sell us out for a dollar

They just do that for brand optics. Because researchers found the apple privacy settings off/on made no difference to the packet of info sent to apple. Their privacy is a facade.