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    All those kid-negative comments are true. My 3 kids are noisy, tiring and expensive. But … now I’m very wary of the time when they’ll leave the house. They fill it with life and joy. Yes those laughters are magical.

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        That’s because these people don’t have kids and not a fucking clue about life. X)

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          Maybe that’s for the better, no?
          I mean, who needs children that may grow up bitter and with no emotional connection because the parents werent into kids in the first place

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            Probably better than the alternatives. I’m not about to force anybody that doesn’t want any children to have some. Just don’t understand the hate against the well meaning advice to consider there are emotional benefits that are hard to explain to people that don’t have children. I understand its unsolicited and often not welcome, but its like if you tell a friend who is about to do something obviously (to you) very stupid. You risk telling them out of a place of genuine care. They still retain to right to do as they please, but there is no need to be an asshole about it.

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              Fair points and agreed.

              My mom always responded to “I don’t like/want to to that” with “How can you not like it without even having tried it/to?”

              Reflecting on that, it makes sense now.

              But it’s not like you can “trial” children before committing to it like a car or a subscription.
              At best it can be tested with a pet like a dog or something else.

              I can enjoy children but only for a limited time and after that I am done with it.

              And I usually hear fresh parents talk about the lack of sleep, amount of increased duties, chores etc. etc. and the good aspects are very few (of which those are mostly not interesting to me).
              A relative has brought a new family addition into the world. The baby is cute and all but I can’t bring myself to care about it in the toddler phase.
              Once it hits maybe the age of 6 or 8 when one can do something with it, they become more interesting to me.

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                Yeah people usually overlook the factor that those are your children. I have the same exact patience for other peoples children. But my own, I’m just hardwired for that since they are born.

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            It’s more that we’ve got a mass media that’s poisoned it’s young people against any kind of social cohesion.

            Don’t get married. Don’t have kids. Don’t waste time with friends. Don’t talk to your parents. Just Hustle. Just Grind. Until you get rich enough to quit your job, retreat into your luxury space, gorge yourself on treats, and die.

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        Kids are seen as a luxury, reserved for the leisure class, or a trap leveraged by evil spouses to take your money.

        Anti-natalism is just the end philosophy of a society that is fully alienated from itself. Any other people in your life is just parasites sucking happiness from your increasingly scarce free time. Your only goal should be Hustle And Grind, until you have enough money to totally self-isolate.