• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Isn’t what you’re bring “all or nothing” anyway. US is bad, so China is good is just another black and white world view. Both can be bad. Both can be engaged in propaganda.

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        2 days ago

        No, it’s a summary. You can try to quantify individual acts and weight them against each other, but people aren’t going to agree about values and even if you could really figure out which one is worse, you wont achieve anything. It’s dark gray vs dark gray and your eyes aren’t good enough to differentiate between the two. I do know enough to not swear fealty to either country.

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          If you legitimately think the two are indistinguishable you’ve abandoned nuance of any kind. Talk to me when China is bombing children in an illegal war of aggression so that their fascist vassal can continue a genocide unchallenged.

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            2 days ago

            Only if you don’t think China drove over their own citizens in 1989. Why do you think any of these countries are being honest about themselves? What’s in it for them to be honest about their past actions, current actions or plans for the future? They’re not your friends.

            Ever notice how the “West’s” opinion on China softened with the rise of Tiktok or when Hollywood started chasing the Yuan?

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              Why do you assume I think they’re being honest? I don’t spare China from critique. However, that critique has to be grounded in provable fact not hearsay. If you want to imagine a China that is capable of hiding atrocities that are in any way equivalent to the crimes against humanity committed by the US, then you’re just a conspiratorial nut job. Feel free to insinuate that TikTok or capture of Hollywood is part of some diabolical Chinese influence campaign. However that just means you’re as much of reactionary xenophobe as MAGA.

              The problem US elite had with TikTok wasn’t that it was owned by Bytedance. It was that its moderation system didn’t censor discussions about Israeli’s ongoing genocide. However, thanks to gullible conspiracists like you, a Zionist billionaire has taken over. Now TikTok is actually being used to suppress information about crimes against humanity. However those crimes aren’t committed by China, but rather the US and Israel. The difference here is that I don’t have to rely on baseless lies and insinuation to justify my worldview.