That’s the actual wild part; using a simple (~$5) SOC to support a dynamic, remotely manageable, UI for an industrial appliance as in this case is reasonable. But dedicated a system per dispenser head is wild.
I guess it could possibly be deemed to be worth it for an ‘industrial’ application like this as it could reduce per-head downtime if just one fails. But man, that’s a lot of silicon for such a task.
The real reason for modern complexity is to create more bullshit jobs and ensure money keeps flowing.
If we just said “enough”, which is true, we’d have a leisure society and people would have time to start thinking.
We can’t have that, so instead we have Linux soft drink dispensers that need multi-core CPUs, containers, VMs, gigabytes of RAM, SSDs, always-on internet connection, and endless hardware upgrades to dispense carbonated water and sugar syrup.
Design, get design approved, print inserts, package inserts, ship inserts, give lead time for most stores to receive inserts, swap inserts, discard old inserts.
And the product just what, magically shows up? If you’re swapping out the flavor, that’s a whole process, not something you’re doing on a whim. All promotional material would either be shipped ahead of time or with the product. We’ve been able to label buttons and products for a long time w/o using an independent computer + screen to do it.
I would assume that in most cases, they arent running a mid day update, they would give prior notice that over night X will happen so make sure product is what the label is in the morning.
Being said, I also assume there is some custom-ability to the screens, as in they are probably touch screens or have a a physical button behind the control to allow to cycle through available products to ensure the right product is displayed. That or there is a network controller somewhere on premise (potentially linked to their menu manager) that decides what screen displays what.
It’s a 7-Eleven Slurpee machine. If a new flavor was coming, it wouldn’t be a surprise, and they’d know well in advance (well managment would). Now I don’t frequent 7-Eleven so I can’t say how often they swap out flavors, but most places tend to just maintain outside of special promotions or discontinued products.
There’d be no reason for those to be touchscreens, they’re not like the Coke Freestyle that lets people pick. Those Slurpee machines are manually controlled by the customer. It being a touchscreen or a server somewhere… is needless over-engineering and a bunch of e-waste to replace an insert. A physical insert never had a CVE. A phsyical insert doesn’t need tech support (both for the OS + application + networking + hardware) on top of the maintenance for the machine (the parts that cool and make the Slurpee). A physical insert cannot crash. The only thing adding a screen + Linux + whatever else does is make the presentation a bit cleaner (at an increase in cost and waste). This is like the places that replaced the glass doors with giant screens (sorry for linking to anything Reddit) https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/p8s7ab/the_cvs_on_irvingpulaski_installed_these_screens/#lightbox
I can’t see reddit on my network(I blocked it to avoid using it) so I will take your word for it, I’m assuming its the store freezer/produce doors with ads.
Being said, there are reasons to technologicalize the process. those type of low level mini pc’s or controllers last generally years at a time, and are a setup once and done type operation. They are also super cheap and can be distributed across the entire chain once instead of needing to get material, print it, and ship it every time a new product or design is done. Sending stuff over the wire is cheap, shipping marketing material is not. It’s generally sent from a different company all-together, and either centralized into a distribution center to be shipped to the stores, or shipped directly to the store from the producer.
It also allows for video based distribution which allows for more info on the screen (for better or for worse because this also could be ads).
I think it’s dumb that it’s an individual system it seems for every screen, but I expect that HDMI matrix hardware is more expensive vs just having them separate, but regardless cost wise it’s a no brainer to make it digital over having physical inserts, even if its more wasteful.
Pepsi isn’t going to print an insert for every machine. They’re gonna print an insert that fits the machine you have to rent from Pepsi. Same with Coke.
Why not use a sticker and a backlight instead of a whole ass pc?
Not only that, but is each flavor a different system??? Wtf
That’s the actual wild part; using a simple (~$5) SOC to support a dynamic, remotely manageable, UI for an industrial appliance as in this case is reasonable. But dedicated a system per dispenser head is wild.
I guess it could possibly be deemed to be worth it for an ‘industrial’ application like this as it could reduce per-head downtime if just one fails. But man, that’s a lot of silicon for such a task.
I guess this is an instance where ‘mission critical’ actually means something!
Adverts, sooner or later
The entire screen is already an advert.
Ah but they don’t get paid extra to show it, by having a screen they can get paid by other companies to advertise for them
Every public-facing surface will be ripe for adverts. Previews of it at gas stations in the US, and nearly everywhere in countries like Philippines.
You’re right - but at least for now they’re advertising Linux 😀
wait till you see electronic price tags. adverts and price gouging per person
The real reason for modern complexity is to create more bullshit jobs and ensure money keeps flowing.
If we just said “enough”, which is true, we’d have a leisure society and people would have time to start thinking.
We can’t have that, so instead we have Linux soft drink dispensers that need multi-core CPUs, containers, VMs, gigabytes of RAM, SSDs, always-on internet connection, and endless hardware upgrades to dispense carbonated water and sugar syrup.
Something a mechanical switch from 1855 can do.
Whenever you change the product or the visual of it is changes, you change the sticker, this is automatic.
If I were to make these devices I would make it so that changing the BiB to different flavor would automatically change the screen.
If you’re changing out the product with something different, then swapping out an insert really isn’t a big task.
Design, get design approved, print inserts, package inserts, ship inserts, give lead time for most stores to receive inserts, swap inserts, discard old inserts.
As opposed to design, get design approved, send.
And the product just what, magically shows up? If you’re swapping out the flavor, that’s a whole process, not something you’re doing on a whim. All promotional material would either be shipped ahead of time or with the product. We’ve been able to label buttons and products for a long time w/o using an independent computer + screen to do it.
I would assume that in most cases, they arent running a mid day update, they would give prior notice that over night X will happen so make sure product is what the label is in the morning.
Being said, I also assume there is some custom-ability to the screens, as in they are probably touch screens or have a a physical button behind the control to allow to cycle through available products to ensure the right product is displayed. That or there is a network controller somewhere on premise (potentially linked to their menu manager) that decides what screen displays what.
It’s a 7-Eleven Slurpee machine. If a new flavor was coming, it wouldn’t be a surprise, and they’d know well in advance (well managment would). Now I don’t frequent 7-Eleven so I can’t say how often they swap out flavors, but most places tend to just maintain outside of special promotions or discontinued products.
There’d be no reason for those to be touchscreens, they’re not like the Coke Freestyle that lets people pick. Those Slurpee machines are manually controlled by the customer. It being a touchscreen or a server somewhere… is needless over-engineering and a bunch of e-waste to replace an insert. A physical insert never had a CVE. A phsyical insert doesn’t need tech support (both for the OS + application + networking + hardware) on top of the maintenance for the machine (the parts that cool and make the Slurpee). A physical insert cannot crash. The only thing adding a screen + Linux + whatever else does is make the presentation a bit cleaner (at an increase in cost and waste). This is like the places that replaced the glass doors with giant screens (sorry for linking to anything Reddit) https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/p8s7ab/the_cvs_on_irvingpulaski_installed_these_screens/#lightbox
I can’t see reddit on my network(I blocked it to avoid using it) so I will take your word for it, I’m assuming its the store freezer/produce doors with ads.
Being said, there are reasons to technologicalize the process. those type of low level mini pc’s or controllers last generally years at a time, and are a setup once and done type operation. They are also super cheap and can be distributed across the entire chain once instead of needing to get material, print it, and ship it every time a new product or design is done. Sending stuff over the wire is cheap, shipping marketing material is not. It’s generally sent from a different company all-together, and either centralized into a distribution center to be shipped to the stores, or shipped directly to the store from the producer.
It also allows for video based distribution which allows for more info on the screen (for better or for worse because this also could be ads).
I think it’s dumb that it’s an individual system it seems for every screen, but I expect that HDMI matrix hardware is more expensive vs just having them separate, but regardless cost wise it’s a no brainer to make it digital over having physical inserts, even if its more wasteful.
Pepsi isn’t going to print an insert for every machine. They’re gonna print an insert that fits the machine you have to rent from Pepsi. Same with Coke.
To show animated things and different flavours when they change without changing the sticker
“Animated”.
You mean… advertising.
Yes?
Definitely.
For some reason I now want to kill everyone that I see around me, is that a bad sign?
Are you worried about your sleeper agent robo killer programming being activated by the soda machine?