i talked about subject like this with someone who is an anarchist and attends kind of protests that can get you in trouble and he wasnt that worried about it. It was in finland though, so there is that too. if i lived in america i would be way more worried too considering what is happening there.
But lets assume that your microphone is recording everything you say to some llm, and everyone else too. imagine the shitshow it must be to sort all that data, considering how unreliable llm are. There is no way to know for sure what the original meaning and intention of words is without actual human confirming it. there would be so much constantly going on that even with decent automation it would be nightmare to manage, i think.
and the subject you joked about is so innocent too. If you were talking about violently opposing the regime as a joke or something else like that, then it would be prudent to practice better security.
I have occasionally tried to investigate if my phone is listening even though it doesnt indicate so, but i havent noticed anything that would point to that. I dont know THAT much about it either though. Though if you have all the bloatware installed and llm stuff enabled then it probably does listen constantly, but i dont think you would have them since you are worried about this.
There is also this nice program called tracercontrol, it lets you know what spying libraries programs have on your phone and you can also cut them off internet with it, and also selectively block the traffic so only necessary traffic is allowed (it does require some getting used to, but its not that difficult imo.) There is some version of it in googles malwareshop called google play, but i downloaded it from f-droid.
There is also similar program called re-think, which is even more heavyduty, though i think it uses battery faster. but at least you can control even better what goes in and out of your phone with it.
And why do you even care what the companies think about you? also, isnt it better less accurate information they have about you? let them think you are moving to canada with 15 kids, to decorate garages with ornamental potatoes and live off the good wibes of the universe.
But lets assume that your microphone is recording everything you say to some llm, and everyone else too. imagine the shitshow it must be to sort all that data, considering how unreliable llm are. There is no way to know for sure what the original meaning and intention of words is without actual human confirming it. there would be so much constantly going on that even with decent automation it would be nightmare to manage, i think.
filtering for interesting words in a transcription would go a long way. I’m not convinced they would need an LLM for this. keyword based targeted advertising was a thing for quite a fewyears before LLMs became widespread.
I have occasionally tried to investigate if my phone is listening even though it doesnt indicate so, but i havent noticed anything that would point to that.
I have friends of all ages who are not really technically adept, and not caring much about privacy either, but who tell me from time to time that it’s like facebook is listening, because of some ad they saw on there. I still don’t have any clue how are they pulling that off, and I hear it too much to accept it being a coincidence.
but I don’t use facebook, I refuse to use their apps, my phone is clean from google too, while theirs is littered with every garbage in addition to the factory bloat, so I can’t do much to figure it out
if you dont block some applications from internet, they definitely are listening somehow. not sure if they can bypass the microphone permission, but if any has constant access then that is that. what i meant that the phone itself doesnt seem to have thing where it listens on you. average user who is not technically adept at all will have their phone riddled with spyware so no wonder they are seeing targeted ads.
Fakebook is just facilitating the ads, the advertising companies are the ones with the data. Though what facebook does with it is likely that they try manipulate you through their algorithm, suggesting stuff they want you to see based on the data collected. Be it for increased addiction, manipulation of opinions or something else.
i talked about subject like this with someone who is an anarchist and attends kind of protests that can get you in trouble and he wasnt that worried about it. It was in finland though, so there is that too. if i lived in america i would be way more worried too considering what is happening there.
But lets assume that your microphone is recording everything you say to some llm, and everyone else too. imagine the shitshow it must be to sort all that data, considering how unreliable llm are. There is no way to know for sure what the original meaning and intention of words is without actual human confirming it. there would be so much constantly going on that even with decent automation it would be nightmare to manage, i think.
and the subject you joked about is so innocent too. If you were talking about violently opposing the regime as a joke or something else like that, then it would be prudent to practice better security. I have occasionally tried to investigate if my phone is listening even though it doesnt indicate so, but i havent noticed anything that would point to that. I dont know THAT much about it either though. Though if you have all the bloatware installed and llm stuff enabled then it probably does listen constantly, but i dont think you would have them since you are worried about this.
There is also this nice program called tracercontrol, it lets you know what spying libraries programs have on your phone and you can also cut them off internet with it, and also selectively block the traffic so only necessary traffic is allowed (it does require some getting used to, but its not that difficult imo.) There is some version of it in googles malwareshop called google play, but i downloaded it from f-droid. There is also similar program called re-think, which is even more heavyduty, though i think it uses battery faster. but at least you can control even better what goes in and out of your phone with it.
And why do you even care what the companies think about you? also, isnt it better less accurate information they have about you? let them think you are moving to canada with 15 kids, to decorate garages with ornamental potatoes and live off the good wibes of the universe.
filtering for interesting words in a transcription would go a long way. I’m not convinced they would need an LLM for this. keyword based targeted advertising was a thing for quite a fewyears before LLMs became widespread.
I have friends of all ages who are not really technically adept, and not caring much about privacy either, but who tell me from time to time that it’s like facebook is listening, because of some ad they saw on there. I still don’t have any clue how are they pulling that off, and I hear it too much to accept it being a coincidence.
but I don’t use facebook, I refuse to use their apps, my phone is clean from google too, while theirs is littered with every garbage in addition to the factory bloat, so I can’t do much to figure it out
if you dont block some applications from internet, they definitely are listening somehow. not sure if they can bypass the microphone permission, but if any has constant access then that is that. what i meant that the phone itself doesnt seem to have thing where it listens on you. average user who is not technically adept at all will have their phone riddled with spyware so no wonder they are seeing targeted ads.
Fakebook is just facilitating the ads, the advertising companies are the ones with the data. Though what facebook does with it is likely that they try manipulate you through their algorithm, suggesting stuff they want you to see based on the data collected. Be it for increased addiction, manipulation of opinions or something else.