from what people told me who’s had this happen, even with a lost account recovery key it is possible to recover the account, it’s just apple doesn’t advertise it.
Basically it’s the same account recovery process but they nuke the accounts cloud(which is likely a deal breaker) prior to handing the account over. The issue is you can’t start that from a self service portal, it has to be originated from apple support and getting them to actually do it can be a pain because they don’t like to for obvious reasons.
also i believe Not having a method of account recovery that allows you to retain goods that was exchanged for monetary value would be concidered fraud so I would expect they are forced to have some way of retaining purchases as long as you can clearly identify yourself as the buyer
It’s factual you will lose it. It even says you will have a permanent loss of access to the account if you don’t have the information supplied to you to recover it. Basically you signed a contract that you won’t lose it and you control it, then you fucked up. Not their problem is what they see it as.
What I’m saying is I have heard cases where people have reached out to Apple’s support and after a few weeks of fighting it(and a few attempts) they got a hold of someone who nuked the accounts cloud and then gave the account back.
Being said for the legal side of it, what they write down isn’t law. They still have to follow the local jurisdiction.
there’s actually an almost identical case to this already going through the US federal system. Awaiting discovery. It’s the Matthews vs. Apple case. In this case, a pickpocketer stole the phone, changed the already existing recovery key(which is a known tactic for thieves who are stealing Apple accounts), and then proceeded to lock them out of the account.
While they have yet to give judgement on this case, Apple has attempted and failed to get it dismissed twice now, in the two years that the case has been active, each time the court stating that the plaintiff has a valid case to be heard and that apples argument that they lacked intent to do it wasn’t valid.
granted, it could still rule in apple’s favor, but being as they have repeatedly refused to dismiss most of the plaintiff’s claims and are allowing it to go into the discovery phase, it doesn’t look good for apple.
from what people told me who’s had this happen, even with a lost account recovery key it is possible to recover the account, it’s just apple doesn’t advertise it.
Basically it’s the same account recovery process but they nuke the accounts cloud(which is likely a deal breaker) prior to handing the account over. The issue is you can’t start that from a self service portal, it has to be originated from apple support and getting them to actually do it can be a pain because they don’t like to for obvious reasons.
also i believe Not having a method of account recovery that allows you to retain goods that was exchanged for monetary value would be concidered fraud so I would expect they are forced to have some way of retaining purchases as long as you can clearly identify yourself as the buyer
It’s factual you will lose it. It even says you will have a permanent loss of access to the account if you don’t have the information supplied to you to recover it. Basically you signed a contract that you won’t lose it and you control it, then you fucked up. Not their problem is what they see it as.
What I’m saying is I have heard cases where people have reached out to Apple’s support and after a few weeks of fighting it(and a few attempts) they got a hold of someone who nuked the accounts cloud and then gave the account back.
Being said for the legal side of it, what they write down isn’t law. They still have to follow the local jurisdiction.
there’s actually an almost identical case to this already going through the US federal system. Awaiting discovery. It’s the Matthews vs. Apple case. In this case, a pickpocketer stole the phone, changed the already existing recovery key(which is a known tactic for thieves who are stealing Apple accounts), and then proceeded to lock them out of the account.
While they have yet to give judgement on this case, Apple has attempted and failed to get it dismissed twice now, in the two years that the case has been active, each time the court stating that the plaintiff has a valid case to be heard and that apples argument that they lacked intent to do it wasn’t valid.
granted, it could still rule in apple’s favor, but being as they have repeatedly refused to dismiss most of the plaintiff’s claims and are allowing it to go into the discovery phase, it doesn’t look good for apple.