After immigrants are detained by ICE, there are probably records somewhere of who has an attorney, and who is calling family members or an attorney.

For the immigrants who aren’t calling any family or lawyers, the poorest of the poor, people with little to no connection to anyone, who may not even say which country they are from, if the administration were actually trying to kill as many disconnected immigrants as possible in secret, would society know?

For example, if the administration was composed of all types of conservative people, but 30 percent were secretly Nazis or wanted racial genocide, could there be a campaign to not just remove, but kill, immigrants, and the public doesn’t find out?

  • f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Does anyone know the whereabouts of any of the 1200 detainees at “Alligator Alcatraz Auschwitz”, the prison camp that suddenly disappeared?

    • someone@lemmy.todayOP
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      2 months ago

      My concern is that there is enough documentation on who isn’t calling people, who has no connection to anyone…

      If there were racist genocidal people within the system and they were able to recognize each other (via tattoos, memberships) and then assign each other to certain duties, if certain people were put into cargo planes and dumped over the ocean, I’m not sure anyone would know.

      It’s very hard for detainees to communicate with anyone in places like that if the detainee doesn’t have money or anyone willing to accept a call. If someone who was a racist genocidal person was put in charge of putting people into groups (based on lawyers, family contact, etc), people who were completely disconnected could be put into a unique group, put in a certain part of a facility, and flown in cargo planes together.

      I just don’t know how likely this is. CECOT is a facility that holds people in a way that many international organizations would consider torture. If people were being killed in there, including people deported by the USA, I am very sure people would not know.

      If we don’t know where 1200 people who were previously detained have gone as a society, and if there’s no record of where they were sent, it’s hard to fathom the state didn’t kill them, although I don’t know.

      I’m very ignorant on all of this. 25% was just a randomly chosen number. But what about 10% or 5%? I just don’t entirely understand the purpose of making immigrants being deported untrackable unless the point is to make it easier to kill them, because if the purpose was just to make it harder to legally contest deportation, the system could just be very slow but have slow tracking built into it… but it doesn’t have that, right? I really don’t know the answers to any of this.

  • aesthelete@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Yes, in the same way most Germans didn’t seem to know that the SS camps were death camps, it’s very possible – if not probable – that these places are either death camps already, or going to become death camps very soon.

    There’s a reason that the administration is so cagey about allowing Democratic politicians in to see the facilities. The other thing is that concentration camps never start as explicit death camps, and the first casualties are always from things like lack of food and disease. Nothing about this suggests any differently.

  • SabinStargem@lemmy.todayEnglish
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    2 months ago

    From what I heard, we had at least 1,300+ people at Alligator Alcatraz disappear, with lawyers and family unable to contact them. A rumor I heard, claimed that Musk had a Neuro-Link laboratory in Florida. I don’t know if that is true, but that would be…possible. The Trump Regime certainly lacks the ethics, considering that it is covering for rapists, killers, and constantly lying. It isn’t difficult to believe that killing people would be A-OK among MAGA’s ranks.

    I think it was Noem who joked about feeding the exact number of Latinos in the USA to the alligators. I am inclined to think it wasn’t a joke.

    • someone@lemmy.todayOP
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      2 months ago

      How is it possible that 1300+ people have disappeared and there’s not more awareness? Are the news channels not covering it or investigating it?

      • SabinStargem@lemmy.todayEnglish
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        2 months ago

        At the very least, the major news networks are complicit. Social media and small outlets are our most aggressive and honest sources of journalism within the US. If you want major media that isn’t beholden to the Regime, you have to look beyond our borders.

        It sucks that we can’t trust our institutions anymore. 🙁

        • someone@lemmy.todayOP
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          2 months ago

          Completely terrifying. Is anyone, like immigration activists, following up on this? Or is everyone just sort of shrugging and moving on?