[yellow shrugs, smiling]
What’s wrong with russian roulette?
I played it once and didn’t die
[yellow is now smiling harder, in a creepy way, gun in hand]
That must mean it’s safe
[yellow shrugs, smiling]
What’s wrong with russian roulette?
I played it once and didn’t die
[yellow is now smiling harder, in a creepy way, gun in hand]
That must mean it’s safe
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@Dasus@lemmy.world @starman2112@sh.itjust.works @comicstrips@lemmy.world
Sir, this is a Lemmy’s.
The very thing you said, it already happens: it’s called cross-posting and it’s quite common here on Lemmy. I attached a screenshot of just one example among countless others.
It’s pretty normal, and it’s not spammy IMHO: rather, it allows for different parts of Lemmy to better engage in parallel exchanges about the subject in question.
Also, Fediverse doesn’t imply everyone is federated with everyone, some instances defederated from other instances, hence why things benefit of being cross-posted.
Also happens quite frequently, either… Especially, mind you, because we’ve been observing the strange phenomenon where the same situations are happening slightly differently, yet still very similarly, around the world (I just recalled a meme here in Brazil “Pode copiar, só não faz igual”, “You can copy it, just don’t make it exactly the same”).
Both social media platforms and we, the users, can’t help but to post about the slightly different-but-equal variations of the same elephants multiplying like rabbits across this large ballroom that is this Pale Blue Dot.
So if something have been behaving so spammy recently, it’s this increasingly-enshittified, damned Demiurgal world.
I’m not the person you’re replying to, but I’d add the following take: there’s a thing called nuance. Someone can disagree with someone but still continue to dialogue and can, mind you, agree with the same person whose other points they disagree with.
In fact, and it’s quite a meta-moment, I myself don’t fully agree with BadJlai when it comes to certain takes of theirs, particularly their straw-man on political nuance (“greenists-orangists” cartoon), but I myself like their comics and I proceed to appreciate it whenever they post a new comics, even the “greenish-orangists” cartoon I silently disagreed with, because I find their comics cleverly and nicely made, despite of any potential disagreements; this, unironically, is the very thing they seemingly mocked (and the very thing you’re subtly criticizing on your peer, too), the ability to agreeing and disagreeing and holding seemingly-dissonant views on things.
Cross-posting and making seventeen posts is quite different.
And no, no-one cross-posts in a dozen and more communities. And anyone who does it in more than three gets blocked, because that’s spam on Lemmy. It’d be the same as posting the exact same post to Reddit every hour on the hour for 12 hours straight.
Actually cross posting and making 17 posts are literally the exact same thing, if you’re making those 17 posts in different forums
Lmao I didn’t proofread my comment
Okay Cross-posting twice to relevant forums which don’t have overlap in readers, is what I should’ve specified, is different than willy-nilly spamming for attention.
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Now we get to argue semantics? Yay! Imagine that instead of “forums,” I had said “communities” or “subforums” or “groups” or any other similar word, and then respond to that instead of getting onto me for using a word differently from you.
I didn’t say that arguments online are embarrassing, I said that your particular attempt to relate what OP did (post the same comic four different times in four different communities) (not spam) to what you did (post the same reply ten different times in response to the same comment) (literally spam) was embarrassing
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@Dasus@lemmy.world @starman2112@sh.itjust.works @comicstrips@lemmy.world
No its not.
The feed one sees (or, well, used to see) in, say, LemmyNSFW, isn’t the same feed one sees in far-left Lemmygrad or Hexbear (especially when they were defederated from the entirety of the Fediverse due to domain ownership issues), which isn’t the same feed from right-wing/far-right/ancap instances, which isn’t the same feed from automated bridging instances (e.g. Lemmit, Bridgy or Mostr instances), which isn’t the same feed as aggregators (such as Flipboard), which isn’t the same feed ones sees in general-purpose lemmy.zip… Or in geographically-specific instances such as feddit.org, lemmy.eco.br, feddit.cl… I guess you got the point.
I’ve personally been in many of those instances, I’ve seen each of their feeds. And I promise you: they’re definitely not the same. Their contents don’t necessarily appear in other instances.
And if we include other non-Lemmy platforms (such as Misskey), the differences goes off the charts. Misskey “forums”, for example, are definitely a whole other (animesque) world. Flipboard, Wordpress blogs… They got wholly different feeds. Some of them make their way to some Lemmy instances.
In the end, it all boils down to which instances each instance federates to or defederates with.
Lemmy, and by extension the Fediverse, is but “one” monolithic thing. Ain’t “oneness” when it comes to the Fediverse: this is what Reddit is (as per your previous reply to my comment), it’s Reddit which got “one forum with several communities”, not Lemmy, definitely not Fediverse.
@Dasus@lemmy.world @comicstrips@lemmy.world
How so?
Practically speaking, it’s ends up being shown in the same way.
And, again: Fediverse has these gaps of federation. We constantly see instances choosing to defederate from others because of conundra. And people are caught in the crossfire, people who got nothing to do with such conundra, so if they need to seek like-minded people on both sides of the island where the bridges were imploded and airspace is closed until further notice, they ought to cross-post.
Call it
"making "+number2English(postAmount)+" posts"or “cross-posting”, this is but a byproduct of how Fediverse is organized in different, often unconnected islands. And you happens to be standing from a quite privileged position in an island where you got this panoramic view of all those air-gapped islands.Sure, Lemmy front-end algorithms could somehow detect duplicates in the same page (perhaps using
Setor something similar) and/or group them as tree-view (that is, something likeObject.groupBy(), grouping similar posts, then rendering them under an accordion element). But it doesn’t happen this way. Nonetheless, that would make an interesting suggestion or PR to the Lemmy project.I can’t really link one right now but I swear I recall seeing posts with a literal dozen of cross-posts. Since I use three different Lemmy instances as a guest for reading the threadiverse (because I actually use Sharkey), such examples are buried in my browsing history. But believe me: this does happen.
It depends. If you’re talking of the same instance or, especially, the same community, yeah it may be seen as spam and it may lead to deletion or bans.
But we’re talking about different instances, even different platforms (Bad Jlai comics were certainly replicated across Mastodon, Misskey, PixelFed, etc). And, again, your instance happens not to defederate from many instances, hence why you get to see more of the cross-posting phenomenon from where you’re standing.
Disclaimer: I myself don’t cross-post things, I don’t even do posts (I do more comments than posts here in the threadiverse), so I got no stakes on this matter, I’m just another person in this thread trying to add something to the explanation of how Lemmy works.
Yes. Fediverse also has people who sub to every single community of their interests in order to grow the number of likes on them.
But people can’t fucking get that through their heads that this isn’t Reddit.
Probably. What I should have said is no user I respect or have unblocked does that, because that shit is spamming.