As someone who builds a computer, installs whatever seems like the most stable LTS distro at the time with the longest support period, and only switches to a new one when the current LTS expires, I’d like to thank all of you for being my beta testers. Your support means the world.
you’re welcome mr debian user
This guy runs debian (btw)
I once heard someone say that Debian is like the sound Dads make when getting off the couch. I’ve never felt so seen.
(I absolutely run Debian, lol)
We’ve got to come up with a different acronym. What says old and stable?
“I use Debian, lol (lots of love)”Why the face?
I was born with it
I installed the latest version of Pop and was shocked when like a third of the shit I wanted to find was missing. The settings page is barren. Zero VNC support out of the box, and most VNC software doesn’t even WORK! The shop is much better and faster than Pop shop… when it isn’t freezing all the time.
Reverted back to 22.x before cosmic and all the stuff I need is back, VNC is built-in, and the slower Pop Shop never freezes. Nothing freezes, it’s perfectly stable.
Cosmic looks nice but damn, the latest version of Pop is NOT there yet.
Pop made COSMIC the default far too early. It should be optional.
Thank you! As person new to using Linux as a regular computer and not a CLI backend for a PiHole or server, I felt that way within the first hour of using COSMIC pop… I appreciate the validation from someone who (I assume) has used Linux a lot longer than me lawl
It’s been a couple weeks since my comment you replied to and I’ve had a WONDERFUL time with Pop 22.x! Everything I’ve wanted to get working has worked perfectly, and I’m learning a ton. Excellent distro for new users (although I’m going to recommend 22.x for the foreseeable future)
I like Fedora for my desktop. Close enough to upstream to get the latest features, but not so bleeding edge that it’s unstable.
And it’s Linus’s distro of choice.
Yeah, but he has stated that he really doesn’t have an opinion. He just happened to install Fedora on the family PC a long time ago and now he neither wants to deal with two separate distros, nor switch the whole household over.
I mean that and being open enough of a distro he can change the kernel out decently often, but not so open things like throwing a new kernel in arch leads to poking at other things.
I’m kinda coming around to using Fedora. I use Arch, btw, but Fedora is pretty close to how I configure my Arch system anyway. Plus, Fedora has a little extra polish with the splash screens that I don’t bother with in my Arch setup.
Maaaaybe…
I’m wondering where people like you and me, using non-LTS but not rolling distros, go in the OP pic.
Obligatory reference to NixOS.
I use Arch BTW full-time for work and personal for about 3 years now and haven’t had any issues at all.
I worked with someone who uses arch on his work laptop
One day it just died and he had to spend a day or two setting it all up again
I mean, its not common, but it happens
Yeah, I ran arch through college, it broke 3 times over 4 years, basically each time because Nvidia updated. Now that I don’t have the time to fuss with spending a couple of hours chrooting in and fixing Nvidia stuff, I just swapped to endeavorOS sway community edition (and made sure none of my PCs have Nvidia anything in them) and haven’t had an issue yet.
Yep, the only time things have broken in Arch for me has been with Nvidia driver updates.
Yep. Funnily enough, never really had any issues with the drivers on a desktop, only on mobile, mostly switching between integrated and discrete. But after messing with them on my laptop for a few years, you better bet my laptop was only running Intel integrated and my desktop runs on amd.
That doesn’t happen. When it breaks, it’s always recoverable, and it very very very rarely breaks (>10 years Arch user here, never lost sleep about it)
I used to do much distro hopping coming from gentoo and settling down with endeavour. My tip for all of you: use lvm for everything outside boot, root and swap (vms, home, games). That way a complete reinstall just takes minutes.
Yeah, people like to think that bleeding edge means “untested”. As if your OS was directly receiving the dev’s
git push…been using Artix and Arch for two years, for work and play, no issues
I think bleeding edge linux is probably more stable than windows
Around 10 years here. Some issues, but much less time wasted in total than if I had done “dist-upgrade”s the whole time.
One huge advantage of a rolling distro is that generally only one thing can break at a time :)
whats dist-upgrade? this is the first time ive heard of it
It’s what Debian and similar distributions use to switch from one stable release to the next. This happens every half year for Ubuntu and every blue moon for Debian, which makes it a significantly more error-prone process than updating Arch every week in my experience.
The LTS released every other year) is supported 5 years.
The only issue I ever had was Arch ARM changing the naming convention for network devices and making me have to plug the first Raspberry Pi that I upgraded into a monitor to debug what was going on.
This was annoying for sure, but less annoying than using a 6 year old Python version like the Red Hat Enterprise Linux at work…
I see your 6 year old python version and raise you RHEL5 running python 2.5 in 2022.
That thing didn’t even have a base Exception class.
Step 1: ah so glad this setup is complete and fully tweaked. So let’s leave it as is.
Step 2: but then again maybe I should try out this little extra thing I just found online that might not work…
It turns out you love installing and configuring software, not actually using it.
I’m in this post and I don’t like it
If you want up-to-date rolling release packages without living dangerously, I recommend openSUSE Tumbleweed. It breaks way less than most other rolling distros such as Arch. I don’t know how they achieve it but they do.
Automated testing.
other distros don’t?
Don’t know. I don’t keep up with other distros that closely. I’m not saying that it’s a unique feature, but that it’s why updates tend not to break things even though it’s a rolling release.
NixOS unstable… I like to live dangerously, safely.
yo you can just turn a choice into a meme and the crowd will go crazy
You’ll never become the governor of South Dakota like that
I use Debian testing for… 20 years? I had serious problems with it. Twice. Nothing unrepairable, but still I needed another machine with internet to fix the problem. I suppose that is ok stability-wise for 20 years.
Sounds like the exact reason that official debian backports came into existence.
LTS is all fun and games and stability until someone releases an update with features that I really really want right now. This is why I keep coming back to KDE neon.
I’m really curious as to what those features would be?
Most recently I switched from Debian because the version of plasma I was running had a bunch of little issues running wayland on my Nvidia card (bought when i was running windows, will be going amd… Someday). The new version of plasma had a bunch of Nvidia specific fixes that wouldn’t make it down to my system for months.
Tbh, I also kinda like the little issues that i occasionally have with rolling release distros. I learn a lot from having to fix things and it keeps me sharp.
I’ve been using Debian SID for for like 50 years now without any issues.
Pop/cosmic let’s go!
Well, if you’re okay using 3+ years old versions of various software…
With bugs that were fixed years ago, but won’t make it into your distro’s repo for years.
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I have many other things I’d rather do on my computer, than mess around with the OS. I just want one that works and stays out of my way. Oh, and doesn’t spy on me.
Used to be me. I ran Debian Unstable for years. Got tired of it breaking. I installed Stable probably 7 or 8 years ago and never looked back.
If you ever feel the need, OpenSuSE Tumbleweed is shockingly stable on my old rig.
Big up for Tumbleweed, i run it on servers.
OK that’s past even my level of chutzpah
