I’m a cis male and I believe in the importance of feminism, but I hesitate to call myself a feminist because it seems like there is a presumption of understanding women’s experiences as if I was part of the Me Too movement. In some binary sense given how hateful and shitty men can be I’m absolutely a feminist, but I wouldn’t declare myself to be one. What is your standpoint?

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    Was going to say essentially this. It can really feel like the most outspoken feminists have a ‘women good, men bad’ mentality (of course many men are equally deranged).

    The injustice towards women is absolutely greater, but look at health and happiness metrics and it looks like men are much worse off, and those two points are very much intertwined, a lot of cause and effect both ways (just my opinion and how I’ve made sense of everything). I think there’s probably no such thing as womens problems or mens problems. Only human problems that bounce around and affect everyone.

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      I think there’s probably no such thing as womens problems or mens problems. Only human problems that bounce around and affect everyone.

      To your point, yes absolutely these issues affect us all, because we’re all connected as humans. But you might want to reconsider how you phrase that. This has big “I don’t see color” energy.

      Both men and women absolutely have unique and specific issues that need recognition if we are to meaningfully address them.

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        True we certainly have lots of issues to recognise and address, but we’ve been trying for decades and not getting all that far. You don’t think it’s at all worth considering these issues in a broader sense? How some men’s treatment of women is influenced by women’s treatment towards men? Or what women can do to help those men be better. It’s not like one person’s actions is anyone else’s responsibility, but surely it could be an area of focus?