• distal@lemmy.ml
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    8 hours ago

    Not me saying that going vegan, changing energy and giving up luxuries no one needs like travelling to Fiji every few years would prevent this even with eight billion people.

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    One thing that always got to me with Thanos and all the infinity stones bs is why didn’t he just make the universe 1% bigger?

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    The upper crust (the top 1/2%) want the ‘herd’ trimmed by 96%. This leaves 3.5% left to feed and slave for the 1/2% who will be living in Greenland on virgin soil drinking virgin glacier water and who run Earth’s feudal system.

    Half? You’re a dreamer!

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        Less powerful mobs and they already feel the poors have bred beyond their usefulness and are now just a drain on the resources that the wealthy are destroying to make sure there’s not enough abundance so remaining people have to rely on them to survive.

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          But more poor people means more mindless consumers, which means more profits. And if we know one thing, it’s that what the ultra rich want most, is be more rich. They are hoarders after all. And they couldn’t concentrate more wealth onto them, if there’s no one to take wealth away from. Or maybe that’s hypothetical doesn’t really work ;)

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    It is widely understood that Thanos was insane. Resources aren’t naturally limited and his campaign of slaughtering half the populations of planets didn’t ensure plenty for the masses. What he accomplished was to teach otherwise isolated civilizations that unless they put aside their differences and worked together they were vulnerable to devastating attack.

    The only scarcity there is or ever has been is artificially created by either ineptitude or purposeful in order to prop up the wealthy who are given ownership of land and resources.

    If he truly wish for a prosperous universe he would have snapped those fingers and installed the knowledge to create a post scarcity society on every planet with intelligent life in all beings. Because with all things the answer is EDUCATION NOT DEATH.

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        We as a species, at this very moment in time, have the physical and technological capability to feed every man woman and child on the planet, yet there’s somehow not enough food to feed all people and groceries are more expensive than they were 100 years ago. In terms of shear volume, you can stack all of humanity in one small corner of the grand canyon but “there’s not enough room for people to live in a home.” yet millions of houses and apartments stand empty as placeholders for equity and investment.

        Scarcity is a choice, not a fact of existence. Stop buying the propaganda.

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      What he accomplished was to teach otherwise isolated civilizations that unless they put aside their differences and worked together they were vulnerable to devastating attack.

      One point I liked about Alternate History Hub’s version of this is that they pointed out that very few people actually knew what happened. Imagine if half the people on Earth today turned to dust in an instant, and imagine this was a world where Marvel had never existed. Most people would interpret that as some sort of act of Divine judgment. A quote I loved from that video was something like, “people will come to many conclusions. Giant purple man with magic space gems is not the explanation they’ll go to first…or ever.”

      I don’t think Thanos taught anyone anything. Billions of species throughout the universe saw half their population turn to dust. Then a few years later, all those people just mysteriously came back. They have no idea what a Thanos is. They’ve never never heard of the Avengers or the Infinity Stones. It’s just this completely inexplicable event outside all known laws of science. It’s unambiguous proof that some sort of supernatural forces exist in the universe, but everything beyond that is open to interpretation.

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        I was actually referring to his campaign before he obtained the Infinity Stones to enact his “final solution”. He references it in Infinity war when talking to his “daughter” trying to make her see his way by telling her that her home planet had become a “paradise where no child goes hungry”.

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    I kind of liked how they acknowledged the backwards thinking Thanos had in the new Spider-Man movie and just made it a joke.

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        No, population control is the definition of eugenics lol.

        Controlling the population absolutely requires an authority allowing certain people to have children. There’s no way around controlling who is allowed to have children if you’re controlling the population numbers.

        That would de facto have to be done with forced abortions or forced sterilization. There’s no other way to enforce people not having kids.

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          Eugenics is concerned with who reproduces. Simply giving out free birth control to anyone who wants it is a population control measure.

          You have Nazi vision. Everyone is Hitler.

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            In theory, you’re right. In practice however, you know as well as I do that population control measures would target the poor disproportionately. So whether it intended to be or not, it would end up being eugenics.

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              Population control is not eugenics, you silly goose! One’s concerned only with the number of people. The other with who reproduces. Your definition of eugenics is so broad that any teacher teaching sex ed counts as a eugenicist.

              Words have meaning. Don’t water them down for cheap points.

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                Population control is not eugenics, you silly goose!

                Lolz! We’re just starving you to death in a prison camp rampant with disease, hehe!

                Fucking twee fascists.

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        18 hours ago

        The Nazis loved to romanticize Eastern European wilds in their propaganda. Not so much when they were driving through it with their armored cavalry.

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        How on earth do you equate curbing wasteful production with halving living standards and what makes you believe that having a lower living standard gives rise to violence? The per year-per person CO2 emissions of Swedes hover at a relatively cool 3.5 tons, while US Americans are emitting 13 tons (2023 statistics). Sweden has half the population density of the United States and is a relatively large country in terms of area. Swedes enjoy higher living standards than US Americans, are therefore more comfortable and they significantly are less violent with gang crime taken into account - which is, just so you know, pure racist fearmongering that plays into US-Israeli imperialist interest.

        Let’s look at Argentina, because here the standard of living is actually lower than in the States. Argentina’s homicide rate is below that of the US’s. And I’m not even one to glaze South America, especially not Argentina. Take Indonesia, Philippines, and Malaysia, countries that are relatively crowded compared to Argentina and have even less, they have analogous relationships, that is, there is no clear relationship between violence living standards. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate)

        But do you see a pattern in your assumptions?

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    Less consumers and less slaves? Noooo what will the investors do? We need MORE MORE MORE

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    The issue with halving in that people will be left beehind alone and sad. We could just remove all humas, this way nobody is sad

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    Or, yk, live in a different way. But that might be harder than having a lot of people die. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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      Hey it was only the rich assholes who’s heads popped, everyone else just participated in a world-wide brawl for like 60 seconds so hopefully most people survived that