• calcopiritus@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    The United States is pretty bad, especially for being a supposedly rich country. But no, it’s not the most brutal.

    Even though I would not travel to the USA under any condition, if I have to choose between USA, north Korea, Iran, or some other random authoritarian country such as the UAE, Saudi Arabia, sudan or somalia, I’m going to USA. Even though I’m a non-gay male.

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      9 hours ago

      Go tell that to the black people living there that have been brutalized for generations. Or maybe to people living in countries that was destabilized by it. This pales in comparison to the contries you named, combined.

      Hell, go see what they did in North Korea during the war.

      Edit: And how could I forget. Go tell that to the indigenous

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        8 hours ago

        Yeah. Go tell that to the people/slaves of the countries I mentioned.

        As I said, USA is no good, but it’s not the worst.

        You don’t seem to understand the meaning of “worst”.

        “Bad” is absolute and can be judged with just the USA.

        “Worst” is relative and you have to consider the other ones.

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          Maybe KSA, Qatar. Dubai, UAE, are as bad or worse, if you’re poor. Not having resided or visited, it’s pointless speculation.

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          7 hours ago

          You don’t seem to understand the meaning of “worst”.

          The “Worst Country” is the country that the US Media tells us is the worst, as measured by US Think Tanks and US Epsionage Agencies and US Propaganda Mills.

        • Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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          8 hours ago

          FYI, the person you’re arguing with is from .ml, so good luck getting them to admit that the us is better than any other country, despite any and all available evidence to the contrary.

          • Binette@lemmy.ml
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            8 hours ago

            You people are seriously disgusting. No wonder minorities don’t feel safe in the Fediverse.

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              7 hours ago

              Literally, “you registered your account on the wrong instance so you’re the devil”.

              There is no end to the bigotry in some people’s brains.

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              Oooh yay! My first encounter of the day with an unhinged ml idiot.

              Tell me, brainiac, how does pointing out that you’re on an instance known for denying basic reality to make arguments set in a fantasy land about how places like Saudi Arabia (who is actively enslaving people and working them to death to build their stupid mega-boondoggle) is worse than the US make minorities feel unsafe? Or are you mad because you can’t actually support the assertion you’re making with evidence sourced from someplace other than your ass?

              Edit: you’re just using minorities as a shield for your awful positions.

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                Naw I’m just gonna show this convo to my brothers and sisters who have dealt with generations of trauma due to American policies lmfao this is crazy.

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                  8 hours ago

                  Because you can’t support your stance, we know

                  Also, I hope you know the rest of us are disgusted at the way you choose to use minorities as a shield for the intellectually lazy arguments you peddle.

                  There’s a reason why you won’t answer the question, and we both know it

            • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
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              Brother you are cooked in your own juices. The fediverse is by far the most accepting and diverse large social platform I am aware of. And for somebody from ML to accuse the rest of us of being intolerant is a real hoot. Spin up a new profile on a less psychotic instance and people might be willing to engage with you.

                • Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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                  8 hours ago

                  So pointing out that other countries are worse than the USA is whitewashing the crimes of the USA? Don’t hurt yourself moving those goalposts because you can’t support your argument

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          And when you compared the atrocities comited, it doesn’t even scale close to everything the US has done and is currently doing.

          Also tell me who’s the one that profits from the slavery in Saudi-Arabia and supports it fully?

          You seriously think I just considered what the US did without comparing it to the other countries you mentioned?