• kibblebits@quokk.au
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    Yes. Absolutely. And I for one would like to see it. But as an entirely different system with all-new DNSs.

    I would propose a system like HTMX (yes this uses JavaScript, but not if it was part of the browser itself) for interactive and partial support.

    Would it be faster? Ehhh, with proper backend. But it wouldn’t eat your processor or be all janky.

    But, in favor or JavaScript: you can’t make a simple calculator without JavaScript. (Please don’t link me to the crazy css hacks!!)

    • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠@slrpnk.net
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      you can’t make a simple calculator without JavaScript

      But you can make an overly-complicated one with PHP!

      /s it would actually still be simple just needing page reloads

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        It’s not simple if you use laravel as a framework just to return calculator results ;)

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        Why would you want basic math in a web browser. Currency conversion? Shopping carts? Mortgage and interest? Dynamic inputs?

        Basically nothing would be dynamic. Everything would require a round trip to the server.

        Now, I think this “new web” would just simply not cater to those types of “dynamic” desires. Web design would be wildly different. Probably in a good way.

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          Did you mean to reply to someone else? Unless you want to address my specific point about why would I want a calculator in my web browser, I don’t understand your comment.

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            There are many different types of calculators. Please educate yourself on them, and consider your question silently to yourself. If you are not a full stack web developer, I feel further communication would be fruitless.

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              WTF are you ranting about? I’m a web user. As I’ve never owned a device which had a web browser but not a calculator, I’m simply asking why would I want a calculator in my web browser?

              Whether or not you are a full stack web developer, I’m confident you can understand this simple concept.

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                If you think I’m talking about an actual calculator app inside a web browser 🧮, I assure you, you are not understanding this simple concept.

                I have already given examples of systems that calculate. “Calculators” they call them.

                Mortgage calculators Interest calculators

                … I could go on.

                All button pushing in a non-JavaScript world requires a round trip to the server. Some people consider this slow and full with privacy concerns—and they are right.

                At this point if you are still confused about what I’m saying… then you aren’t ever going to catch up. But please, feel free to continue arguing and embarrassing yourself.