Third dimension isn’t up, it’s just not X or Y. We just say “height” or synonyms for it because we say “length and width” for X and Y, even though all axis are just length between vectors proceeding in order of being able to exist, X, Y, then Z.

If you are plotting your perspective, it will run on entirely different coordinates to an object’s coordinates, i.e. Camera vs Object stricture. But in most arts and all math, we tend to model the object and it’s values which we create and assign to it as attributes, not with values of how it should look from various perspectives.

I think that’s the confusion. You could get used to the Z being treated as Y, but it’s incomparable with everything else and you’d have to now confirm with other’s that length and width are X and Z and extrusions from 2D plane are Y. This doesn’t occur much anywhere else. This is the whole premise behind the meme. Arguing between standards when one is universal, the other is niche but those that have only learned the niche one are adamant the universal one is wrong.

No. That is not my logic. It’s the logic of Rene Descartes who invented the thing you are trying to talk about.

And because gaslighting attempts online are hilarious, I’ll assume you just didn’t read so good and will repeat myself again; we tend to rest the plane on the floor, as it is in our reality with gravity it is easier to conceive. Like modelling a car, it’s wheels on the screen spend most of the time pointed down.

You don’t have to. You can model it any direction you want, but most people find it easy in an orientation that mimics common perspective. But however you do it, you still can’t have a Z axis without a plane. That’s the point. Grid is plane and plane is needed for Z. If you have a grid on Z it’s representing an infinitely possible slice through extrusion and that’s basically a concept behind some fractals, which introduces a new vector for new XYZ points within.

I know you really want to be right but this is very long-standing foundational and basic stuff we just do. It isn’t my logic or opinion, I’m sharing this knowledge to you, something you can very easily look up yourself right now and forget I even exist—which would be neat.

You’re mixing up perspective with the object’s actual coordinates system. The “left-right-up-down” are your perspective or computer screen and do not define the axes of the object itself. The object has its own.

If I rotate a map on a table, it’s X and Y don’t suddenly flip. The coordinates belong to the object, I’m just viewing them from a different perspective now.

In mathematics, the Z axis only exists because it’s defined as being perpendicular to an existing plane (the plane X and Y form). The gridlines represent that plane and Z’s extrusion values reference it. Your perspective or viewing angle don’t influence these coordinates at all.

Commonly we face the XY plane down as it’s “floor”. We build things from the ground up. We draw from top down. It’s just how gravity brought the standard around. You can flip it however you want, though. But if you see a grid, that’s a plane and Z is extrusion off that.

I know Z as upward. X and Y were always on the base plane representing length and width. Z comes in being all like, “Now we’re being 3D!”

So wherever the “floor” is, represented with gridlines, boundary, canvas, etc. that’s where they live. That is Flatland where there is no up or down. It is 2D where most of my work is. If you try tell me Y is Z, I’d ask “wtf is a Z?”

And no one is suspicious if I sit in a car outside their home for 7 hours. Eventually crawling away with a tyre squeal.

There’s been many animal inspired hairstyles over the generations. I call these a labradoodledo.

I make music from the cries of physical abuse. Drummer.

Of the many broken bones I’ve had, a snapped femur is one. The damage it did means I’m never walking without a limp or running at nearly the pace I could. All it did was compound above the knee. This is permanent massive life changing damage. That bone absolutely destroys all the critical muscle groups, blood vessels, and massive nervous system that flows down to your lower half.

I grew up surfing in the late-90s early-00s, and we’d always paddle in to go to the same place for lunch. They had a jukebox and we always put on Yellow Submarine simply because one time flicking through someone thought it sounded funny, and turns out the song’s a bit of a joke. The owner hated the ritual, but he knew we’d put on Stairway To Heaven next and leave.

We chose Stairway To Heaven as loosely as we did Yellow Submarine. Never heard it before, but we had heard of it. Those two songs covered scoffing down lunch and then we’d paddle back out for the afternoon session.

This occured for years until we grew up and left town pursuing adult things as newly born adults now out of highschool.

The owner was a great guy. Told us as much as he hates Yellow Submarine, he was going to miss us as much as he loved Stairway To Heaven (along those lines anyway). We never learned each other’s names, but he always gave us shit when we walked in and told us to enjoy our surf when we left. Those two songs and that jukebox remind me of him all these years later and I’m sure they remind him of us punk ass surfer brats.

If it’s a PC, just grab another drive and install Linux now. Swear to god, you’ll naturally and very quickly just not boot to Windows again. It’s like…

Day 1: Install Ubuntu. Drive around, do stuff, learn.
Day 3: Install a different distro like Mint or whatever. Drive it around.
Day 5: Install the one you ended up liking most. All these installs take like 10 mins top btw, so go nuts.
Day 10: You havent used Windows except maybe for your work’s 365 stuff. All you games, programs, etc. are on Linux now.
Day 14: Wipe the drive Windows is on and reinstall it on a shrunk partition. Only install your stuff for work or just leave it default.

And that’s it. Yourself free, but it’s still there if ever have to use it for something. You’ll groan when you do though. And if you do WFH with work 365 stuff, the best part of the day is logging off and booting back into Linux. It’s like the relief of coming home from work but you’ve been home all day.

Pff. Unless I know you or you’re in my area, anything after 12 on a Friday doesn’t get actioned until Tuesday due to the “Friday backlog”. A concept entirely made up while I action all the stuff coming in on Monday.

Am I manipulating my entire organisation? Sure. Has it worked over time? Certainly. The more you treat a team or department like a last minute dumping ground, well you can expect the expected results.

Edit: Oh and marking the email priority as “Important” lets us know it’s definitely not. No one leaves important shit to Friday afternoon. Go to the back of the queue.

Even in cities there are so many edible plants. Started eating the fruit of a random tree next to the sidewalk

Oh, you’d love Sparti.

Gotta pay attention on the sidewalk or you might roll your ankle on a fallen orange.

At my work, it’s become common for people to say “AI level” when giving a confidence score. Without saying anything else, everyone seems to perfectly understand the situation, even if hearing it for the first time.

Keep in mind, we have our own in-house models that are bloody fantastic, used for different sciences and research. We’d never talk ill of those, but it’s not the first thing that comes to mind when people hear “AI” these days.